Opeth (metal, genre, albums, members, quote)

tkpb938 · 04-27-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

I'll say it: this band have shown very little progress or expansion over their last what, 5 albums? I believe the new one is not much of a gigantic leap either. This band is a thorough disappointment.

Ghost Reveries might not technically or creatively be their best record, but it's my favourite of theirs simply for having the best melodies.

I listen to The Baying of The Hounds like everyday lol.... Ya Ghost Reveries is my fave too. Although, at times I think they need to tone down the the depressing sequences a bit. It just gets a little too melodramatic at times for me.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-27-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

I'll say it: this band have shown very little progress or expansion over their last what, 5 albums? I believe the new one is not much of a gigantic leap either. This band is a thorough disappointment.

Ghost Reveries might not technically or creatively be their best record, but it's my favourite of theirs simply for having the best melodies.

I don't understand what you are talking about. Orchid was just totally unpolished and tried to meld the quiet bits with the loud death metal bits. Morningrise polished that sound and had some great interludes. My Arms, You Hearse was totally brutal and is their second heaviest album by far. It also had a different feel to it than the past releases. Still Life was different in that they started to go away from their death metal roots and become more progressive and they started to add more jazz elements. Blackwater Park is a polished version of that album and it is a bit more heavier. Then you have Damnation, which is obviously different than the other releases and Deliverence, which is heavier than anything they released and took away the whole folk/jazz feel of the other albums. The band tried to be as brutal as possible with that album. Ghost Reveries is probably their darkest album, most likely because of the keyboards used. It was definitely influenced by the funeral doom metal scene. Now what was all this talk about them not progressing?

Rainard Jalen · 04-27-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

I don't understand what you are talking about. Orchid was just totally unpolished and tried to meld the quiet bits with the loud death metal bits. Morningrise polished that sound and had some great interludes. My Arms, You Hearse was totally brutal and is their second heaviest album by far. It also had a different feel to it than the past releases. Still Life was different in that they started to go away from their death metal roots and become more progressive and they started to add more jazz elements. Blackwater Park is a polished version of that album and it is a bit more heavier. Then you have Damnation, which is obviously different than the other releases and Deliverence, which is heavier than anything they released and took away the whole folk/jazz feel of the other albums. The band tried to be as brutal as possible with that album. Ghost Reveries is probably their darkest album, most likely because of the keyboards used. It was definitely influenced by the funeral doom metal scene. Now what was all this talk about them not progressing?

There is virtually no progression in Ghost Reveries at all. It just reworks and plays on the same old ideas they'd been using for 6 years prior. If you cannot acknowledge that then you are simply allowing yourself to be blinded by bias.

Reworking old ideas into a different template =/= progression. I'd love to be able to say otherwise, but little positive argument can honestly be made in their defense.

tkpb938 · 04-27-2008, 10:47 PM

Ya but just because a band has progressed, they are not necessarily better for it. Their formula works and if they wanna stick with it there isnt anything wrong with that.

Zer0 · 04-29-2008, 03:54 AM

Cant wait for their new album, should be out sometime this year

Rainard Jalen · 04-29-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938

Ya but just because a band has progressed, they are not necessarily better for it. Their formula works and if they wanna stick with it there isnt anything wrong with that.

Other than the fact that by now it has become f'cking boring as hell.

tkpb938 · 04-29-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

Other than the fact that by now it has become f'cking boring as hell.

I'm pretty new to them so i really wouldn't know.

Rainard Jalen · 04-29-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938

I'm pretty new to them so i really wouldn't know.

Well it's prob an idea to listen from Still Life onwards, to get the gist of what I mean.

Orchid and Morningrise are unquestionably good albums for their genre.

tkpb938 · 04-29-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

Well it's prob an idea to listen from Still Life onwards, to get the gist of what I mean.

Orchid and Morningrise are unquestionably good albums for their genre.

Ya I've been meaning to listen to more of their stuff but havent had time :\

DragHustler · 09-19-2008, 03:36 PM

Be sure to post how that goes eh?

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