Nonexistent genre, what to do?

Labirent · 05-08-2013, 06:25 PM

Hi all,

My question is going to sound delusional but I'm having sleepless nights over it, paired with a dose of nausea, so I hope any of you will be able to help me out of my misery.

I play the bass and I love both rock and metal, but I also love the disco genres: Techno, House, Electronic music and I love Ethnic vocals. All of these genres have sounds in common and I have found a way to combine these genres. It sounds good, it's rock with an influence of the darker sounds of the disco genres I said.

My problem is: this is something that does not exist. I have never heard such music. It does not fit in any subgenre and the only musical people I know won't want to work with me because everybody wants to stick to the known familiar genres. And unfortunatly it's impossible to do this on my own.

What do I have to do? Is it possible to find people who would want to try this with me or is there no chance and should I get it off my head?
Should I try it anyway and if yes, where should I look for a band?
Or should I stick to the known and make "normal" music?

Please help me. I'm really stuck. I have such great ideas, tons of lyrics, basslines and many more. But I'm on my own.
Is it possible?

*Nonexistent I mean..

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-08-2013, 06:27 PM

It's not new
Primal Scream, Death In Vegas and a whole other bunch of bands were mixing electronic music with rock music back in the mid 90s.

Labirent · 05-08-2013, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

It's not new
Primal Scream, Death In Vegas and a whole other bunch of bands were mixing electronic music with rock music back in the mid 90s.

I know of them, but what I'm trying is different. Not the same.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-08-2013, 06:33 PM

Use it as your starting point. look for people who like those bands.

Labirent · 05-08-2013, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Use it as your starting point. look for people who like those bands.

I have made some sounds on my own to give everybody an idea of what I'm trying to do but nobody wants to try it.
Most of them love it, but I don't know what's holding them back.
I'm losing it.

P A N · 05-08-2013, 07:01 PM

I say just keep practing and socializing. There are a lot of musicians in the world, and finding the right ones is an execise of patience.

Something else you might want to consider is that most musicians are only willing to selflessly play along with someone's idea or vision if they're being paid to do so. I'm assuming - like most artists - you're not made of money, so instead of pitching a predisposed notion of what you want "your band" to sound like, try pitching yourself to people as an open-minded experimenter interested in trying and creating new things. It could end up being fun and surprising to go this route as opposed to being stressed out about expectations. Bands are a give-and-take kinda thing. People get freaked out by ideologues.

jackhammer · 05-08-2013, 07:03 PM

If this is the music you want to play then hold onto it and don't give up. Don't compromise your own principles in order to satisfy others.

There is a huge amount of bands out there who mesh seemingly disparate genres together and sound awesome : Dog Fashion Disco, Kayo Dot, Akphaezya, Maudlin Of The Well, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Ulver, Valravn etc so don't despair.

Labirent · 05-08-2013, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P A N

I say just keep practing and socializing. There are a lot of musicians in the world, and finding the right ones is an execise of patience.

Something else you might want to consider is that most musicians are only willing to selflessly play along with someone's idea or vision if they're being paid to do so. I'm assuming - like most artists - you're not made of money, so instead of pitching a predisposed notion of what you want "your band" to sound like, try pitching yourself to people as an open-minded experimenter interested in trying and creating new things. It could end up being fun and surprising to go this route as opposed to being stressed out about expectations. Bands are a give-and-take kinda thing. People get freaked out by ideologues.

I tried jamming with others, punkers, heavy metal groups, classic rockbands, name it. Every time I suggested something, for example adding ethnic tribal percussions paired with flute, even showed them how to play it, they looked at me as if I was mental.
Maybe I'm just in the wrong area or haven't met the right people.

Labirent · 05-08-2013, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer

If this is the music you want to play then hold onto it and don't give up. Don't compromise your own principles in order to satisfy others.

There is a huge amount of bands out there who mesh seemingly disparate genres together and sound awesome : Dog Fashion Disco, Kayo Dot, Akphaezya, Maudlin Of The Well, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Ulver, Valravn etc so don't despair.

Thank you, I'm getting quite desperate but giving up would hurt me more I think.
This line: "Don't compromise your own principles in order to satisfy others" just woke me up and brought me to reality.
There have to be some people willing to experiment. Somewhere.

The Batlord · 05-09-2013, 11:40 AM

College campuses maybe? I imagine they would have more open minded people than other places. Other than that all I can say is just to keep up with it if for no other reason than to please yourself. If at the end of the day you can find pleasure in doing something then anything else is just a bonus.

05-08-2013, 06:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Labirent Groupie Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5	Nonexistent genre, what to do? Hi all, My question is going to sound delusional but I'm having sleepless nights over it, paired with a dose of nausea, so I hope any of you will be able to help me out of my misery. I play the bass and I love both rock and metal, but I also love the disco genres: Techno, House, Electronic music and I love Ethnic vocals. All of these genres have sounds in common and I have found a way to combine these genres. It sounds good, it's rock with an influence of the darker sounds of the disco genres I said. My problem is: this is something that does not exist. I have never heard such music. It does not fit in any subgenre and the only musical people I know won't want to work with me because everybody wants to stick to the known familiar genres. And unfortunatly it's impossible to do this on my own. What do I have to do? Is it possible to find people who would want to try this with me or is there no chance and should I get it off my head? Should I try it anyway and if yes, where should I look for a band? Or should I stick to the known and make "normal" music? Please help me. I'm really stuck. I have such great ideas, tons of lyrics, basslines and many more. But I'm on my own. Is it possible? Nonexistent I mean.. Last edited by Labirent; 05-08-2013 at 06:26 PM. Reason: Typo*

05-08-2013, 06:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	It's not new Primal Scream, Death In Vegas and a whole other bunch of bands were mixing electronic music with rock music back in the mid 90s. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

05-08-2013, 06:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Use it as your starting point. look for people who like those bands. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

05-08-2013, 07:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	If this is the music you want to play then hold onto it and don't give up. Don't compromise your own principles in order to satisfy others. There is a huge amount of bands out there who mesh seemingly disparate genres together and sound awesome : Dog Fashion Disco, Kayo Dot, Akphaezya, Maudlin Of The Well, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Ulver, Valravn etc so don't despair. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

05-08-2013, 07:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
P A N DO LIKE YOU. Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 629	I say just keep practing and socializing. There are a lot of musicians in the world, and finding the right ones is an execise of patience. Something else you might want to consider is that most musicians are only willing to selflessly play along with someone's idea or vision if they're being paid to do so. I'm assuming - like most artists - you're not made of money, so instead of pitching a predisposed notion of what you want "your band" to sound like, try pitching yourself to people as an open-minded experimenter interested in trying and creating new things. It could end up being fun and surprising to go this route as opposed to being stressed out about expectations. Bands are a give-and-take kinda thing. People get freaked out by ideologues.