Who will be seen as the defining rock artist of the 00's?
 

I'm going to go with The White Stripes for a couple reasons:

-They spearheaded the garage rock revival scene, possibly the most discernible musical scene of the 00's. They're also the most recognizable of the bunch
-Their 'back-to-basics' approach was a lot more authentic then groups like The Strokes, Jack had a more unique vocal delivery, the lack of bass was an interesting addition (or subtraction, amirite?)
-They released three nearly flawless albums in quick succession
-They had an image:
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and variety in sound

It's a toss up between The White Stripes and Arcade Fire. The whole garage rock revival was a big deal for mainstream rock that was dealing with the whole post-grunge/ rap-rock thing, but there was something about the success of Funeral was also a big deal.

Would you put Neon Bible up there with De Stijl, White Blood Cells or Elephant though? I certainly wouldn't, it was somewhat of a sophomore slump (still really good though!)

And I think The Suburbs was after 2009 if we're getting technical with the decade definition :pimp:

Kill Me Tomorrow, but only in my own personal world.

I've never heard of them, what album should I check out?

You should check out their only bona fide LP, The Garbageman and the Prostitute.

I'd definitely put White Stripes over Arcade Fire, but I think it can be argued that the success of Funeral and the anticipation for Neon Bible reawoke some feelings that just don't exist anymore, or at least not to the same degree as past decades. However that said, we need to think of what defined the past decade and I think the sole defining aspect of the '00's was the change in the distribution of music, so maybe Yankee Hotel Foxtrot deserves the nod.

How about Modest Mouse?

from Allmusic:
Holy **** I need to check these guys out


True and hell if Summerteeth had been released a year later, I would be crowning Wilco as one of the best of the 2000s

Then again I'm on the fence as to if this new form of distribution is a good thing or not

I don't really agree with the comparisons (though I do love both of those bands). To me they're much more like a noisy, fuzzed-out, dystopian future version of Iggy Pop. "Noir wave" is a good name for their style though.

either comparison warrants a listen in my book, Idiot and Lust for Life are among the finest late 70s albums

as far as other genres,

rap: tossup between Eminem, Kanye, Jay-Z (to jansz's dismay)

electronica: Daft Punk probably

don't know **** about modern r&b or country or blues or jazz

I would agree with that. And definitely Daft Punk. For rap I wouldn't say Kanye because he's more of a producer than an influential rapper. Maybe Eminem but his last few albums are ****e.

Well, Radiohead certainly made their mark, with Kid A, Amnesiac and In Rainbows, so I'll go for them. Otherwise it would be Arcade Fire, maybe. Neither of them has spawned endless amounts of copycats, though, or if so, I've never noticed.

Queens of the stone age Hands down

Jazz:
Acoustic Ladyland
Soil & Pimp Sessions.
Quantic

I thought his Recovery album was fantastic, but his Relapse album was absolute garbage.

Didn't Jethro Tull beat out Metallica for an award in 2000? I'd say Jethro Tull is pretty obvious.

2000?

Try 1989

WOW my time machine missed by just that much. :rofl:

I guess i'd side with the Radiohead fanboys then as they have been pumping out records and receiving accolades at a high level for some time now.

You can tell it's not 2000.

Think about it, if someone was judged to have made a better Rock album than Metallica in that year would it really be that much of a shock?

:rofl: Point taken. I think Jethro put out a better album then the Black album that year also. I think I would include Coldplay if we're gonna talk sheer numbers and take a stance toward popularity. I'm surprised Arcade Fire is in the discussion but they do have what is considered a top ten record from the era.

to me if it has any sort of electronics and studio add ons or magic it isnt rock


Rock to me is like Dry gritty hot and dirty and dusty

thats why Whitestrips is a pretty good choice and radiohead isnt

This is rock to me VVVVVV


Jack White Makes His Own Slide Guitar - YouTube

Sounds like the blues to me Norg. They certainly make more sense in the conversation then Arcade Fire to me.

Blues n rock are so intertwined its sick Blues Rock is the foundation of rock IMO

This makes no sense. You don't build the foundation after you've already built the house.

I'm going to have to agree with The White Stripes, Elephant is already a masterpiece to me, I'm very young and I grew up with Jack's voice singing down my ear

It was up against ...And Justice For All.

God Fred, you're timeline is totally out of whack :)

I'd say the white stripes. They managed to pull off the "back to basics" thing and had a pretty distinct style. Other groups in the garage rock revival scene (The Hives, The Strokes, The Vines, Arctic Monkeys) are pretty good too, but not as unique.

The Hives are absolutely brilliant but agreed not as unique.

who said we built the house already ....????? everyone knows u have to build a foundation before a house :usehead:

That's what he was implying.

R U 4 reel?

I certainly will be.

And yeah, for the mainstream at least, White Stripes and Arcade Fire have to be the "defining" band - with The Black Keys thrown into the hat.

My personal one would be Agalloch.

I'll lump myself with the White Stripes and Black Keys crowd. If the 2000's will be known mostly for the garage rock revival (and I think it will), those are the two bands that are the poster children for it.

If I had to make a prediction, I bet decades from now, a larger selection of the Black Keys' music will be in the public eye for much longer. With them shifting towards a more pop accessible sound, they will be in movies and commercials for a long, long, long time.

At the same time, Seven Nation Army is huge and constantly spreading in the sport landscape. Several European soccer clubs' crowds chant the song and so many college marching bands play it here in the states. If anything, 'Seven Nation Army' is the new 'We Will Rock You' and it's safe to say 'We Will Rock You' is one the most anthematic songs in the last few decades. In that context of usage and recognition, it's probably the song of the 2000's.

All things considered, I think the White Stripes will look better and be more revered based on a consolidated, very good discography and the mountain that is 'Seven Nation Army'.

Queens of stone age is better then arcade fire and black keys hands down


and deff more ROCK and OBVs down would be a good second : )

Pretty solid list, Arcade Fire have died down but they definitely made their impact, The Black Keys and White Stripes would be high up the list, it's pure rock if it was thing.

Agalloch is an interesting choice, although I'll take them over any of those bands anyday.

My pick would be The Mars Volta, one of a kind, you can't replicate them, there are bands that have tried, but they will never surpass. Left a huge impact on me, but they're gone as fast as they hit they scene. I hope Bosnian Unicorns or whatever crap crashes and burns. I'm sticking with Cedric all the way.

I am going to say Jack White specifically. I say that because he is putting out relatively diverse stuff beyond the White Stripes with his other bands and his solo work. I also think his ventures into music production and country music are going to benefit his status.

The other pick would be The Black Keys and Arcade Fire, too. Arcade Fire have not really died down, but we'll see where their next album puts them. The Black Keys movement into more pop style music will definitely make them stand out, but I think Jack White will have a bigger influence on the garage- blues- rock revival.

Nickelback :confused:

Sure, can't forget Agalloch. They helped popularize the concept, within metal, that novelty equated quality, leading to such monumental idiocy that Agalloch actually put in the liner notes who played ****ing antlers.

Sadly I don't think the 00's will be defined by a rock group. There's so much convoluted garbage out there, looking back in time will be like trying to do math with a cluster headache.

I'd like to think the Black Keys will make their mark, I like a lot of their music. Blink-182 is making new music again. The White Stripes are most definitely up there. I always liked Weezer.

But man, if Guthrie Govan decides to take a jab at mainstream rock with some sort of super group, his riffs and licks are tasty as ****, and I'm sure he wouldn't mind playing in some sort of traditional rock setting.