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Urban Hat€monger ? 02-10-2013 12:45 PM

Learning comes with listening.

The more you listen the more you pick up subtle differences.
When you know what these subtle differences are then you may need something to distinguish them when describing them. You're trying to do it the other way around.

You said they all sound the same for you, so you're not in the position of needing to know.

In other words, it's not important, just carry on listening to music and don't worry about it.

khfreek 02-10-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Arterial Spray (Post 1284458)
Now this may be showing my stupidity but haven'twe been listeningto weird time signatures since the dawn of music and just called it 'creativity'?

Perhaps but it's weird time signatures being applied to rock music that hadn't happened before. Prog bands made the push and then math rock came about when people used even more complex time signatures/chord patterns and even changed time signatures throughout songs. That's a really oversimplified explanation and there's other qualities to it, if you're interested read the Wikipedia article.

That's math rock anyway, mathcore is that combined with hardcore punk.

Isbjørn 02-10-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1284609)
Just FYI there's no apostrophe in the word "genres". It's a plural not a possessive.

Yeah, like:
The dog had a toy. I tossed away the dog's toy.
The dogs had toys. I tossed away the dogs' toys.

Sug0rt 02-10-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1284610)
Learning comes with listening.

The more you listen the more you pick up subtle differences.
When you know what these subtle differences are then you may need something to distinguish them when describing them. You're trying to do it the other way around.

You said they all sound the same for you, so you're not in the position of needing to know.

In other words, it's not important, just carry on listening to music and don't worry about it.

Well, I didn't say they all sound the same, I said that people fight over songs being in a certain genre that sounds more or less the same as another genre, so there are differences, however, I do not feel there are enough differences to warrent a whole new genre. I hope that makes sense.

Also, thank you Janszoon as I wasn't sure on which spelling was correct.

Arterial Spray 02-10-2013 01:44 PM

Fair point.

To be honest I think we're all making the same point here, if it sounds good then whats it matter if its mathcore, hardcore or britneyspearscore (I may have made the last one up). :beer:

Genres('s,s' whatever) is never going to be a subject that everyone agrees on but it could go on until the next millenium!

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 1284611)
Perhaps but it's weird time signatures being applied to rock music that hadn't happened before. Prog bands made the push and then math rock came about when people used even more complex time signatures/chord patterns and even changed time signatures throughout songs. That's a really oversimplified explanation and there's other qualities to it, if you're interested read the Wikipedia article.

That's math rock anyway, mathcore is that combined with hardcore punk.


BastardofYoung 02-10-2013 04:20 PM

http://rateyourmusic.com/rgenre/

Jack in green 02-12-2013 11:16 AM

The reality is that the metal gender by now is very much complicated to define, ahahah it's war between metalheads, but they don't know for what war fighting.

Plankton 02-12-2013 12:02 PM

Pretty comprehensive list here:

List of popular music genres - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Arya Stark 02-12-2013 12:15 PM

If you try too hard to define music by genres, how will you truly enjoy what you're listening to? You're missing the whole point.

doronla 02-13-2013 05:48 AM

Never realy liked this genre issue... Why to categorize bands in genres? I understand it's easier for people to relate to new bands based on their genre, but what happen if a band comes up with an album that has different genres inside this one album? the best artists I know are ones that invented them selves again and again not related to a specific expected genre


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