Why such controversy on Nu Metal?

Forward To Death · 02-01-2013, 09:43 AM

What different influences? It's all hip-hop based, with rapping and shouting vocals and low-tuned 7-string guitars. Korn and Limp Bizkit sound like different brands of nu metal, yes, but it's still the same basic formula.

MyName · 02-01-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by raw-kin-roll

Just sounds like a bunch of white guys trying to make rap sound evil. But if I had to choose one that I disliked the least it would be Slipknot.

I like Nu Metal but I don't like "evil" and I've never heard any Nu Metal band trying to sound evil. Maybe you can be more specific? In which song do white guys try to sound evil by rapping? And why mention they're white? There are black guys in Nu Metal too.

Forward To Death - KoRn, Limp Bizkit, Deftones, Linkin Park, Saliva, Papa Roach, Disturbed.

Each of these bands has a completely unique and recognizable sound. Admittedly, I don't know much about guitars but I know for sure that those bands guitars don't sound the same. Deftones's Adrenaline f.e. is one of my favorite albums and it has an unique guitar sound that has never been used outside that album. Name me ONE song outside Adrenaline in which the guitar sounds like that.

~~ninaNirvana~~ · 02-01-2013, 10:01 AM

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I think it's weird to throw black metal in with those, but to answer your question, nu-metal is a synthesis that seems driven largely by adolescent and adolescent-acting bands, combining two genres of music that are 1. angsty and 2. easily commercial. The resulting music is usually a lot more proud of itself than it really deserves to be (lower technical skill than a lot of other metal genres, less lyrical depth and compositional profundity, etc. etc.) and unfortunately, due perhaps to the strong backlash against its founders, or perhaps to the transience of its demographic target, there's been very little exploration of it in the underground by more talented rappers and metal musicians.

I agree very much. Nu Metal seems to water down the complexity in traditional metal genres. But there are some exceptions. I really love the band LoPro. Pete Murray's voice is amazing and I think he's a very underrated singer. If you listen to more complex recordings he's done you can hear his flexibility as a vocal artist. Here's Pete ( actually guest appearing on an MRI track ) singing these Arabian screams - kinda sounds like LoPro meets a Middle Eastern Alice In Chains - amazing

love the sitar-sounding guitar solo too

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-01-2013, 10:09 AM

Wow, you disappear for 3 years you come back and in your first 2 posts back here contain videos for that crappy band you were desperate to promote every chance you had.

I think kicking you off this forum is long overdue.
Goodbye.

~~Whiskey~~ · 02-01-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Forward To Death

What different influences? It's all hip-hop based, with rapping and shouting vocals and low-tuned 7-string guitars. Korn and Limp Bizkit sound like different brands of nu metal, yes, but it's still the same basic formula.

I dont know what influences exactly. Its just that I used to listen to Nu metal bands a lot in the past, and it just sounded like a mix of genres to me. I never loved Nu metal at all but there used to be moments where I had the urge to listen to it.

Isbjørn · 02-01-2013, 12:40 PM

Choosing the band I hate the least is impossible. I don't like nu metal. MTV and hip-hop rhythm shouldn't be combined with something as different as metal.

MyName · 02-01-2013, 04:22 PM

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Choosing the band I hate the least is impossible. I don't like nu metal. MTV and hip-hop rhythm shouldn't be combined with something as different as metal.

This IMO is the biggest problem with Nu "Metal". It is often more similar to hard rock than metal, a bit too heavy/aggressive for hard rock but too melodic and different from metal. Maybe calling it Nu Rock would be better... maybe.

Not enough rapping for hip-hop fans and too much of hip-hop rhythm for rock/metal fans it is only appreciated by few open minded people intelligent enough to comprehend its greatness and value it.

Hip Hop and Metal kind of remind me of Romeo and Juliet. They're perfect together, yet their families can't stand each other because of most stupid, senseless reasons. Difference is, Nu Metal lives forever.

Unknown Soldier · 02-01-2013, 04:45 PM

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but too melodic and different from metal.

If you think Nu metal is melodic then I do sympathize with your ears. I guess you don't know metal that well, as to call Nu metal more melodic than other types of metal just demonstrates this.

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Maybe calling it Nu Rock would be better... maybe.

It already tarnishes the good name of metal, let's spare rock from a similiar fate.

MyName · 02-01-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

If you think Nu metal is melodic then I do sympathize with your ears. I guess you don't know metal that well, as to call Nu metal more melodic than other types of metal just demonstrates this.

It already tarnishes the good name of metal, let's spare rock from a similiar fate.

Yeah, totally. This is so melodic.
Cannibal Corpse - "Make Them Suffer" Metal Blade Records - YouTube

Not all other types of metal but when people say metal they mean heavy/death/trash/black. Which is in most cases bad IMO. I don't mind progressive or sludge metal f.e.

Good name? Metal got a good name? Most people associate metal with low IQ, bad hygiene, neanderthal behavior and thinking, violence towards women, long feminine hair and leather pants, bad physical condition and alcohol.

Crinn · 02-01-2013, 06:56 PM

I don't see a problem with nu metal. There are a few that are horrific (Limp Bizkit, etc.). But I mean...I'm a black metal guy, and there are nu metal bands that I LOVE like Korn, Godsmack, Hellyeah, Mudvayne, Rage Against the Machine, System of a Down, Slipknot, Otep, Deftones, etc. and others that I like to listen to every once in awhile like Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Linkin Park, Saliva, Sevendust, and the first two Five Finger Death Punch records.

The fact that it's the most successful metal genre so far in terms of fans and sales that piss off the underground metalheads, which in my opinion is pretty damn pathetic.

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Crinn Legalize Homicide Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Washington Posts: 95	I don't see a problem with nu metal. There are a few that are horrific (Limp Bizkit, etc.). But I mean...I'm a black metal guy, and there are nu metal bands that I LOVE like Korn, Godsmack, Hellyeah, Mudvayne, Rage Against the Machine, System of a Down, Slipknot, Otep, Deftones, etc. and others that I like to listen to every once in awhile like Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Linkin Park, Saliva, Sevendust, and the first two Five Finger Death Punch records. The fact that it's the most successful metal genre so far in terms of fans and sales that piss off the underground metalheads, which in my opinion is pretty damn pathetic. __________________ "Your God died on a cross. Mine holds a hammer in his hand. Make your own conclusions." - Nergal (Behemoth) http://www.nylon-ice.blogspot.com

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Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	What different influences? It's all hip-hop based, with rapping and shouting vocals and low-tuned 7-string guitars. Korn and Limp Bizkit sound like different brands of nu metal, yes, but it's still the same basic formula.