Originally Posted by nappydanny (Post 1277173)

I think it's due to the fact that most people who are somewhat familiar with nu metal think of bands like "Slipknot", "Korn", and "Limp Bizkit" which turns them away from the genre. I'm not saying those are bad bands, they just aren't my favorite; there are many talented nu metal bands that don't get the recognition they deserve.

On a side note, I do think the song structure in nu metal does make it seem boring to some metalheads. The lack of guitar solos could also be part of this. Even so, I still really like nu metal...alot!

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1277064)

I like Rollins.

Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 1277182)

Really though, SOAD doesn't incorporate rapping into their music. Serj does strange things with his voice and uses odd rhythms, but never raps. I think the only reason they were considered Nu Metal was due to the timing of the popularity and the how unique they sounded. If they had come out five years earlier I don't think they would have been pigeonholed into Nu-Metal, even retrospectively.
That said, I don't really mind Nu Metal; I even like Linkin Park's first two albums as well as a good amount of Slipknot's work.

Originally Posted by Forward To Death (Post 1277197)

I don't hear any hip-hoppy elements in SOAD, and that is essential to nu metal imo.

I've never thought they sounded like nu metal, except maybe a bit on "Prison Song" and "Sugar".

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1277202)

To me the big defining attributes of nu-metal are the crunchy guitars and a certain groovy, hard to define approach to rhythm that is very different from the metal that came before it. I think a song like this fits the bill, it even kind of has rapping in it:

Originally Posted by Whiskey (Post 1276903)

I think to some people nu metal really doesnt sound like metal at all to them, so this might be part of the reason why they despise it, because of the lyrics and the unpredictable sound of the genre.

Originally Posted by Musicfanatic (Post 1277270)

Indeed, it does.





Exactly what I was getting at. It just doesn't sound like metal, so it makes me want to chuck that Korn album across the store, because it just doesn't belong in the metal section. Nor does Staind, though I like Staind a little bit. They simply are not metal. But the Slipknot I've heard sounds metal enough. I've only heard but two of their albums, though: S/T and Iowa.

Originally Posted by Norg (Post 1277295)

cause the "older people" kids born in like 1979-84 it was something new to them

Kinda like i loved NU metal but after that when Screamo ANd NU Hardcore rose at first i was like Uhhh what ...well thats kinda what it was like for them

They grew up on THrash/Death metal 90-94 industrail goth or whatever they were into at the time real extreme stuff and when NU metal came out with there more streamlined riffs and electronics added on they were like WHAT !!!!!