Billy Corgan slams Soundgarden and Pavement

blastingas10 · 08-18-2012, 08:53 AM

Im sure there is some truth to what he said, but maybe they just enjoy playin music an touring as well. Whether or not he's right, I think it's a douche bag move to come out and say all that.

mr dave · 08-18-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

It sounds like you only agree with him about Soundgarden though. What about Pavement? That's where I found Corgan's comments particularly ironic since Smashing Pumpkins are a far more commercial band than Pavement.

True, though to be honest I never got into Pavement (I know Slanted and Enchanted is supposed to be awesome and they had a video where they all got haircuts but that's it) nor was I aware they were doing a reunion so I can't really comment on that side of his comment.

Psy-Fi · 08-18-2012, 09:16 AM

It seems to me that Billy Corgan is cashing in on the Smashing Pumkins name at this point, so he sounds like a bit of a hypocrite as far as I'm concerned.
They look like more of a tribute band now.
Perhaps he should change the band's name and STFU.

Duraddict · 08-18-2012, 09:39 AM

Billy Corgan is a brat. Always has been. Like a true has-been.

Neapolitan · 08-18-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yes, that is explicitly what he said. What's your point?

I didn't see Billy Corgan rerfer to his band as a business in that article, so I didn't see any irony in the statement. He only thinks of bands that reunite and tour without new material as an oldies business. He may have said his band is a business in other interviews. (I can't understand people who are in a band that makes money and not realize they're in a business.) You're right there is irony in finger pointing at bands who want to make money - Smashing Pumpkin is his cash cow.

My ironic moment in the article was when he said it's "boring." I would rather a band stick to old material that I like than try to pass new boring material I don't care for so they can sell their latest albums (which is normal business practice for bands).

But for the most part I agree with it. I can't see how a recording artist in could be solely about "art for art sake" with no business aspect to it. It seems for the most part music takes a back seat to all other aspects of the music business especially for big name stars.

**Janszoon** · 08-18-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I didn't see Billy Corgan rerfer to his band as a business in that article, so I didn't see any irony in the statement. He only thinks of bands that reunite and tour without new material as an oldies business. He may have said his band is a business in other interviews. (I can't understand people who are in a band that makes money and not realize they're in a business.) You're right there is irony in finger pointing at bands who want to make money - Smashing Pumpkin is his cash cow.

My ironic moment in the article was when he said it's "boring." I would rather a band stick to old material that I like than try to pass new boring material I don't care for so they can sell their latest albums (which is normal business practice for bands).

But for the most part I agree with it. I can't see how a recording artist in could be solely about "art for art sake" with no business aspect to it. It seems for the most part music takes a back seat to all other aspects of the music business especially for big name stars.

Good grief. He may not have used the words "my band is a business" but he was clearly referring to his band as business in the article.

LoathsomePete · 08-18-2012, 05:06 PM

What an insufferable prick. Kind of get a bad taste in my mouth when I look back on the days when I use to practically worship the man.

SGR · 08-18-2012, 07:06 PM

Billy Corgan is right. Always has been. Always will be.

Gucci Little Piggy · 09-27-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

Billy Corgan is right. Always has been. Always will be.

Oh hail no. Say, isn't your username SoundgardenRocks for a reason?

Trollheart · 09-28-2012, 06:09 PM

"Smashing pumpkin slams pavement" --- now THERE's a visual I can appreciate!

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Psy-Fi Aficionado of Fine Filth Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: You don't want to look in there. Posts: 6,898	It seems to me that Billy Corgan is cashing in on the Smashing Pumkins name at this point, so he sounds like a bit of a hypocrite as far as I'm concerned. They look like more of a tribute band now. Perhaps he should change the band's name and STFU. Last edited by Psy-Fi; 08-18-2012 at 03:08 PM. Reason: Had to fix an error.

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Im sure there is some truth to what he said, but maybe they just enjoy playin music an touring as well. Whether or not he's right, I think it's a douche bag move to come out and say all that.

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SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,327	Billy Corgan is right. Always has been. Always will be.