Norg

what is the state & history of black metal these days it seems from

1997 to now things got really blurry

i know black metal bands started to crop up all over the world its not just the scandanavina countries anymore black metal bands in

Eroupe Cuba JAPAN north america latin america all have or had black metal bands

hip hop bunny hop

Norg, Black Metal was never exclusive to Scandinavian countries. At all.

Anyways, I think the most interesting development in the genre is the movement away from the norsecore sound. Bands like Black Witchery, Revenge, Goatpenis, Havohej (etc.) seem to be enjoying a good level of popularity in the scene.

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Howard the Duck

Krallice has already been mentioned, they're pretty normal, if a little unwashed:-



and they're "hipster", not tr00 kvlt, make of that what thou wilt

Agalloch as well:-



American black metal are usually played by "New Age" pansywaists, who don't want to associate with the Scandinavian cheese-whiz Paganisms or burning churches

their style is also more "atmospheric" than "brutality"

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Do you mean jsut for France? Cause there's also Thränenkind, Heretoir, Shyy, Frail (now Crooked Necks), and Hypomanie.

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LoathsomePete

I was kind of being faceitous as I really have a hard time distingusing them from each other.

I think the bigger picture thing here is, and this is an open question to all black metal listeners on this forum, would normal be an adjective you use to describe yourself?

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The Batlord

Aren't they like super eco-activist types who live in a farm in the woods? I wouldn't call them normal.

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CanwllCorfe

I'd call myself eccentric.

They live on a farmstead, though I'm not sure if it's in the woods. As far as I know they are very eco-activist, but I live in the woods surrounded by farms, and if I could garden myself I probably would. My dad does. I guess to some it would be weird, but I don't think so.

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The Batlord

To be fair, I don't know how normal someone on an internet forum is gonna be. No offense, but I'm usually the weirdest person in the room. Besides, I get the feeling that they didn't so much grow up on a farm, as they just decided to ditch civilization and go live on a farm in the woods (and I seem to remember an interview where they did mention it being in the woods). So, I'd say that's not exactly normal. I'd love to do it myself, but again, usually the weirdest person in the room.

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Whether or not one self-describes as normal seems irrelevant; normalcy is a trait is projected onto others.

But, anyways, whether or not the lyrics are explicitly anti-social is irrelevant as the music style itself has been, since its inception, anti-social and the sound chosen because it was antagonistic. For this to change we would need, at minimum, for the aesthetic principles of the black metal sound to be considered acceptable by a large portion of society.

This is why "traditional" black metal artists and fans mock those who try to incorporate into the genre populist messages, especially those with a political dimension. Whether explicitly far-left (e.g., Iskra) or far-right (e.g., Wehrhammer), neither side has yet to be able to square the anti-populist nature of the music with their populist rhetoric. A broader way to state this would be that black metal's aesthetic is fundamentally anti-humanistic.

Right, here's two things that make the crew of Wolves in the Throne Room bizarre:

-the guys are self described eco-feminists
-they actually use draft horses for farm work

Boom. ****ing weird.

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Forward To Death

How about normal metal by black people?