Did You Like Or Hate The Lou Reed & Metallica Album Lulu

Salami · 12-10-2011, 11:05 AM

Interesting argument. I will happily agree that there are aspects of their artistry which are worthy of merit.
For example: one of their worst songs must be "Whiskey In The Jar", an awful cover of the Thin Lizzy cover of the Dubliner's cover of an old Irish folk song. Guess what? I like it. I think Hetfield, although unable to sound tuneful, really did try for that song. He did his best to put emotion into that song. The way he says "Here I am in prison!!!" sounds to most people ridiculous and contemptible, but I think he puts some real frustration into that song. Although Thin Lizzy's was so much more graceful, Hetfield sounded much more like he really wanted to BE there, and the emotioon was more genuine.

God, I can write crap when I feel like it.

Mojo · 12-10-2011, 12:58 PM

I havent heard this album but I saw them play a few tracks off it on Jools Holland and yes, it was dreadful.

One thing though. Why has this thread focused almost exclusively on Metallica? From what I heard, this wasn't Metallica at their best. Of course it wasn't. However there was nothing massively horrific about them in what they played on his show.

Lou Reed playing with Metallica on the other hand...

Salami · 12-10-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

One thing though. Why has this thread focused almost exclusively on Metallica? From what I heard, this wasn't Metallica at their best. Of course it wasn't.

Quite right. He's picked the very lowest point in Metallica's musical career.

Mojo · 12-10-2011, 01:53 PM

Well my point was actually that Lou Reed and Metallica were never gonna play well together, no matter at what stage in either of their careers they decided to collaborate.

Also, I dont think this is their lowest point. I liked Death Magnetic, even if it was recycled and an attempt to go back to basics. It was a good album, it just wasn't at all relevant.

Load, Reload and St. Anger were all lower points, in my opinion.

Salami · 12-10-2011, 02:02 PM

Hmmm... I think this live performance must be the very worst.

Lou Reed & Metallica - Iced Honey (Later Live with Jools Holland) 8th Nov 2011 - YouTube

They just don't go together. Lou looks uneasy, he doesn't want to be doing it at all.

For all I've said, Garage Inc. wasn't too bad...

Necromancer · 12-10-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami

For all I've said, Garage Inc. wasn't too bad...

Thats one album I have (disc-1), that I just cant seem to get into for some reason.

What is your favorite song on the album itself Salami?

Or are you talking about a single Reed did with them?

Salami · 12-10-2011, 02:32 PM

Oh man, you're going to absolutely hate me for this.....

It's actually "Whiskey In The Jar", an awful cover of the Thin Lizzy cover of the Dubliner's cover of an old Irish folk song. Guess what? I like it. I think Hetfield, although unable to sound tuneful, really did try for that song. He did his best to put emotion into that song. The way he says "Here I am in prison!!!" sounds to most people ridiculous and contemptible, but I think he puts some real frustration into that song. Although Thin Lizzy's was so much more graceful, Hetfield sounded much more like he really wanted to BE there, and the emotioon was more genuine.

s_k · 12-10-2011, 02:34 PM

I didn't like that cover for one simple reason:

As I was going overRRAH!
the Cork and Kerry MountainZZAH!
I saw Captain Farrell and his money he was countinNNAH!

Necromancer · 12-10-2011, 02:36 PM

I'm listening to it now, I like the beat to it. Nice going into the second verse.

I admit, I like the slow drive the song carries itself. (OK)..

Salami · 12-10-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k

I didn't like that cover for one simple reason:

As I was going overRRAH!
the Cork and Kerry MountainZZAH!
I saw Captain Farrell and his money he was countinNNAH!

Imagine Otto from the Simpsons singing that song.

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12-10-2011, 12:58 PM	#32 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	I havent heard this album but I saw them play a few tracks off it on Jools Holland and yes, it was dreadful. One thing though. Why has this thread focused almost exclusively on Metallica? From what I heard, this wasn't Metallica at their best. Of course it wasn't. However there was nothing massively horrific about them in what they played on his show. Lou Reed playing with Metallica on the other hand... __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

12-10-2011, 01:53 PM	#34 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	Well my point was actually that Lou Reed and Metallica were never gonna play well together, no matter at what stage in either of their careers they decided to collaborate. Also, I dont think this is their lowest point. I liked Death Magnetic, even if it was recycled and an attempt to go back to basics. It was a good album, it just wasn't at all relevant. Load, Reload and St. Anger were all lower points, in my opinion. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

12-10-2011, 02:34 PM	#38 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	I didn't like that cover for one simple reason: As I was going overRRAH! the Cork and Kerry MountainZZAH! I saw Captain Farrell and his money he was countinNNAH! __________________ Click here to see my collection

12-10-2011, 11:05 AM	#31 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	Interesting argument. I will happily agree that there are aspects of their artistry which are worthy of merit. For example: one of their worst songs must be "Whiskey In The Jar", an awful cover of the Thin Lizzy cover of the Dubliner's cover of an old Irish folk song. Guess what? I like it. I think Hetfield, although unable to sound tuneful, really did try for that song. He did his best to put emotion into that song. The way he says "Here I am in prison!!!" sounds to most people ridiculous and contemptible, but I think he puts some real frustration into that song. Although Thin Lizzy's was so much more graceful, Hetfield sounded much more like he really wanted to BE there, and the emotioon was more genuine. God, I can write crap when I feel like it.

12-10-2011, 02:02 PM	#35 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	Hmmm... I think this live performance must be the very worst. Lou Reed & Metallica - Iced Honey (Later Live with Jools Holland) 8th Nov 2011 - YouTube They just don't go together. Lou looks uneasy, he doesn't want to be doing it at all. For all I've said, Garage Inc. wasn't too bad...

12-10-2011, 02:32 PM	#37 (permalink)
Salami Get in ma belly Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,385	Oh man, you're going to absolutely hate me for this..... It's actually "Whiskey In The Jar", an awful cover of the Thin Lizzy cover of the Dubliner's cover of an old Irish folk song. Guess what? I like it. I think Hetfield, although unable to sound tuneful, really did try for that song. He did his best to put emotion into that song. The way he says "Here I am in prison!!!" sounds to most people ridiculous and contemptible, but I think he puts some real frustration into that song. Although Thin Lizzy's was so much more graceful, Hetfield sounded much more like he really wanted to BE there, and the emotioon was more genuine.

12-10-2011, 02:36 PM	#39 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	I'm listening to it now, I like the beat to it. Nice going into the second verse. I admit, I like the slow drive the song carries itself. (OK)..