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View Poll Results: Best band: 90s Seattle Era
Nirvana 47 31.13%
Alice In Chains 40 26.49%
Soundgarden 15 9.93%
Pearl Jam 18 11.92%
Stone Temple Pilots 6 3.97%
Mudhoney 6 3.97%
Other 17 11.26%
Tad 2 1.32%
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:18 PM   #791 (permalink)
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AIC were true artists when it came to making repetitive and boring music
They're quite broad actually. Dirt is dark and metallic, Jar of Flies is their acoustic side and S/T is more melodic.

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and also having a lead singer that spent most of his time whining about self-hate and disgust, in fact few bands have done it better than them.
Whining? A lot of Laney's lyrics were metaphoric. Also, grunge is generally a depressive genre. The point was that these issues also requires attention.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:23 PM   #792 (permalink)
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You don't seem to be able to master the quote button, you're hardly a newbie here

I was channeling Weiland when I did that, mediocrity at its best.

AIC eclectic!!! Well you don't know about quote buttons, but you do have a great sense of humour

I agree with RJINN none of their albums sound the same and they evolved with time, thats eclectic to me.

STP were not really part of the Seattle scene, they dressed to well and looked like they washed at least once a week.

I know they weren't. They were all from the San Diego area. I saw them in SD before their first album broke and always found them boring and Weiland annoying. And I think the Deleo? Bros were below average for technicality and sound.

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Old 11-16-2012, 12:26 PM   #793 (permalink)
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They're quite broad actually. Dirt is dark and metallic, Jar of Flies is their acoustic side and S/T is more melodic.

Whining? A lot of Laney's lyrics were metaphoric. Also, grunge is generally a depressive genre. The point was that these issues also requires attention.
It might be a depressive genre, but there's no need for a vocalist to constantly jump up on a soap-box and reiterate what we already know.

Dark and metallic does not mean broad in any way, it just means dark and metallic.

They're the least melodic of all the bands mentioned, we obviously have a different concept of melody.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:53 PM   #795 (permalink)
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As far as I know, they were never a grunge band. They were a metal band that started out playing Slayer covers. Before they made it big they toured on the Clash of the Titans tour with Slayer, Megadeth, and Anthrax for god's sake. They may have had a grunge influence, but they were never grunge. And whenever they tried to be sludge, they just ended up sounding melodramtic or just plain boring. They had their moments where they could rock out, but in general they were much better when they played melodic.

To be honest AiC aren't easy to pin. I agree that they have alt metal qualities. I don't agree at all that they were never grunge. Grainy sound, structurally alternative, grunge-like lyrics, and raspy vocals. They're definitely heavy though, but I think Jar of Flies is a good example resembling acoustic grunge.

They pretty much developed their own sound. I don't think they were trying to be anything.

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It might be a depressive genre, but there's no need for a vocalist to constantly jump up on a soap-box and reiterate what we already know.
I'm not really following you here, can you elaborate?

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Dark and metallic does not mean broad in any way, it just means dark and metallic.

They're the least melodic of all the bands mentioned, we obviously have a different concept of melody.
Those statements were in comparison between those albums.
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AIC werent repetitive at all, They continued to evolve as they went along. Maybe they weren't broad, but they were more so than some of the bands on this list. I don't think any of these bands were very broad
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Because they were better than half the bands on the list.
That doesn't justify anything, man. You didn't help yourself in any way by saying that. If it's gonna be about Seattle bands, including a non-Seattle band is pointless, regardless of how good they are. I LOVE Stone Temple Pilots, but I find it appalling how many people just assume that because a band plays grunge that they're from Washington.
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I'm not really following you here, can you elaborate?
A fair percentage of vocalists have serious addictions and it's part and parcel of the profession. But when you when you have a vocalist, that focuses practically all his/her energies on singing about this addiction, it becomes labourious to say the least. It's not like we needed to be told, it was fairly obvious in Layne's case.

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That doesn't justify anything, man. You didn't help yourself in any way by saying that. If it's gonna be about Seattle bands, including a non-Seattle band is pointless, regardless of how good they are. I LOVE Stone Temple Pilots, but I find it appalling how many people just assume that because a band plays grunge that they're from Washington.
I commented about all the bands on the list except 'other' who are not a band. I didn't create the list, I'm just working with what has been put up there.

I know the member that created this thread and he's fully aware that STP like most other members on here are not from Washington state.
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They certainly did evolve over a five year period, so much so, that the even the dog looks bored out of its skull.


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A fair percentage of vocalists have serious addictions and it's part and parcel of the profession. But when you when you have a vocalist, that focuses practically all his/her energies on singing about this addiction, it becomes labourious to say the least. It's not like we needed to be told, it was fairly obvious in Layne's case.
Musicians are inspired by what they think and feel. I don't think he's just talking about himself, his lyrics were interpretive.

But ok, I guess I see where you're coming from.
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