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View Poll Results: Best band: 90s Seattle Era
Nirvana 47 31.13%
Alice In Chains 40 26.49%
Soundgarden 15 9.93%
Pearl Jam 18 11.92%
Stone Temple Pilots 6 3.97%
Mudhoney 6 3.97%
Other 17 11.26%
Tad 2 1.32%
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:44 PM   #481 (permalink)
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Alice in Chains by FAR. I really never got the appeal of Nirvana. Cobain was a pretty average songwriter imo.
I actually think Cobain was a great songwriter, who had amazing vision to incorporate all his influences into a cohesive sound which was Nirvana. Its not his fault that a myriad of second rate songwriters have ripped off his style and dragged his name through the slime.
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:39 PM   #482 (permalink)
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Strange that, when you consider Eddie Vedder, Chris Cornell and Scott Weiland are three of the best hard rock vocalists of the last 20 years or so

Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and a certain Dave Grohl also really knew to play their instruments as well!
Eddie Vedder, a great singer? He has the vocal range of a lung cancer patient, the shouting/shreiking thing he does doesnt help either. Yes Dave Grohl can play the guitar but hes fairly mediocre, same goes for most grunge musicians
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Eddie Vedder, a great singer? He has the vocal range of a lung cancer patient, the shouting/shreiking thing he does doesnt help either.
What a pity you have no appreciation of what a hard rock vocalist should be about.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:40 AM   #484 (permalink)
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You say this like he completely invented grunge music. Apparently you've never heard of the Melvins, Green River, or Screaming Trees. To me it seems like Cobain was just some guy that got lucky and had his name attached to the genre.
No. I say it like he was the focal point of a shift in popular culture. Nothing of what I said was about grunge rock, it was about Cobain's songwriting. He influenced how people wrote songs, how they expressed their inner turmoil, how they were able to exorcise their demons and hate and rage and frustrations at the unfairness of the world. His songwriting proved that you could be equal parts emotional and philosophical and still be successful. That doesn't mean his followers managed to toe the same line or even step up to it without becoming parodies and farces.

Whether or not you like the fame he hated is irrelevant. Fact is, Nirvana was it. No, they weren't born fully formed from the death wound of the hair metal dragon, so what? They're still the absolute pinnacle of influence from that style onto the mainstream. Had there not been any substance to his music and band Nirvana would have gone the way of so many other 'should-haves'.

Yes, Nirvana might have never existed if it weren't for The Melvins or Tad or the Screaming Trees. Though I doubt many people today would have heard of The Melvins, or Tad, or The Screaming Trees had it not been for Nirvana catapulting that style onto the mainstream.
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I have to go with Nirvana, with a close second it's Pearl Jam
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What a pity you have no appreciation of what a hard rock vocalist should be about.
If poor range, dreadful shouting and emotionless vocals is what a hard rock vocalist should be about then no, i have no appreciation for it. Ian Gillan, Dio, Layne Staley and Eric Bloom are all much better.
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If poor range, dreadful shouting and emotionless vocals is what a hard rock vocalist should be about then no, i have no appreciation for it. Ian Gillan, Dio, Layne Staley and Eric Bloom are all much better.
Why would you compare Eric Bloom and Ian Gillan to Eddie vedder in the first place is beyond me. I don't find either one really all that vocally talented. Layne Staley sings almost exactly like Eddie Vedder in a different range. Dio i will give you he is what rock vocalists strive to reproduce vocally.
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Layne Staley sings almost exactly like Eddie Vedder in a different range.
If by different range you mean larger range and more emotion, yeah that's right.
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If by different range you mean larger range and more emotion, yeah that's right.
If you call Layne Staley constantly singing and whining on and on about his drug addiction and his self-digust over drugs then sure you have a point. But if we're talking about a singer that has real power and emotion in his voice, then he's not even in the same league as Eddie Vedder. I glad we've now got that difference all cleared up and we can all move on.
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If you call Layne Staley constantly singing and whining on and on about his drug addiction and his self-digust over drugs then sure you have a point. But if we're talking about a singer that has real power and emotion in his voice, then he's not even in the same league as Eddie Vedder. I glad we've now got that difference all cleared up and we can all move on.
Now, now, let's not discount Staley's vox here. The melodies he produced with Cantrell were quite good. I have no problem with Vedder; he was truly an innovator who developed his own style. I think people sort of take him for granted because ****ty post-grunge vocalists like Scott Stap (and to some extent Scott Weiland) ripped him off and beat that sort of singing style to death.
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