Best Band: 90s Seattle Era.

Zer0 · 04-01-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

As said before, the whole thread is scandalous Alice in Chains have 16 votes, whilst all the rest have 20 between them!!! Take out Mudhoney as they don't really count and that leaves 15 votes between them! It's kind of sad that Nirvana, Soundgarden, STP and Pearl Jams all superior bands, have all floundered behind AIC by such a vast amount of votes. I think people really need to asses just how good these AIC albums actually are.

What do you mean by this? If there was ever a band that embodied the spirit of grunge it was Mudhoney, and they're way more fun to listen to than the other bands included on the poll.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-01-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur

I agree with Howard that what about being underground makes a band innately good?

Nothing
But that's not the point.

The point is if you want anything new or different in music you don't go see what acts Universal or EMI are currently signing up right now, you go to the underground.

When you're looking at a musical movement in it's infancy you can either look at the people who originated it and made it the name it was or you can look at the bands that record companies sign to cash in on the deal.

I know which I prefer.

Unknown Soldier · 04-01-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur

It's my personal opinion that STP was the first "post-grunge" band as they just rode the coattails of the other Seattle bands. Listen to any of the hit singles from STP and I dare you to say their not nearly identical to any Shinedown, Seether, Puddle of Mudd, etc song.

Dirt from AIC is a classic. The metallic riffs and dark atmosphere were the heaviest thing on the billboard top 200 at the time--which set them apart for me.

I'm not saying AIC are a terrible band or anything and I even picked up Dirt recently on cd as its a very good album, I just don't see them as being as talented as the bands I mentioned previously and neither do I relate to all the hype still surrounding the band.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

What do you mean by this? If there was ever a band that embodied the spirit of grunge it was Mudhoney, and they're way more fun to listen to than the other bands included on the poll.

To be honest, I never thought of Mudhoney as a very good band and would actually sooner listen to AIC, again they had some decent stuff and I won't argue with the fact that they were pivotal to the whole movement and were the big success at Sub-Pop records, without them grunge may not have made its breakthough. Like most of the bands in grunge, Mudhoney's sound was heavily built around their influences, sadly for them though, I find the bands that influenced them to be far superior in every aspect.

Travis_Bickle · 04-01-2012, 02:16 PM

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What you're doing right here is trying to apply your personal perspective to a general observation (not a generalization). Whether or not you like stadium rock doesn't change the fact that Alice in Chains was very much a stadium rock band and meant to appeal to that kind of crowd. Did you ever hear about Nirvana successfully touring with Van Halen back in the day like AiC did? Hell, Jerry Cantrell even had some amps waiting in his garage from EVH as a bonus when he got home. Not like the Guns N' Roses / Soundgarden tour which ended up more like WTF

What I’m saying is I like AIC and don’t feel I fall in either category.
I am not one of these two types of people, neither are a lot of my friends. I don’t regularly listen to any stadium rock apart from AIC if they are defined that way.

Alright I’m tired of this garbage and think UH might be just taking the piss, so I’m done.

Unknown Soldier · 04-01-2012, 02:23 PM

Man, you must be pissed to do a double post

Travis_Bickle · 04-01-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Man, you must be pissed to do a double post

Haha. Computer problems.

Zer0 · 04-01-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

To be honest, I never thought of Mudhoney as a very good band and would actually sooner listen to AIC, again they had some decent stuff and I won't argue with the fact that they were pivotal to the whole movement and were the big success at Sub-Pop records, without them grunge may not have made its breakthough. Like most of the bands in grunge, Mudhoney's sound was heavily built around their influences, sadly for them though, I find the bands that influenced them to be far superior in every aspect.

In that case it's all down to personal taste then, which is no reason to say that a band doesn't deserve to be in the poll.

BastardofYoung · 04-01-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

I'm not saying AIC are a terrible band or anything and I even picked up Dirt recently on cd as its a very good album, I just don't see them as being as talented as the bands I mentioned previously and neither do I relate to all the hype still surrounding the band.

To be honest, I never thought of Mudhoney as a very good band and would actually sooner listen to AIC, again they had some decent stuff and I won't argue with the fact that they were pivotal to the whole movement and were the big success at Sub-Pop records, without them grunge may not have made its breakthough. Like most of the bands in grunge, Mudhoney's sound was heavily built around their influences, sadly for them though, I find the bands that influenced them to be far superior in every aspect.

Difference is Mudhoney IS grunge, plain and simple.

Personally Mudhoney is my favorite of the bunch, hence my vote. The embodied the Seattle music scene and what it would become more than any other band.

They had a fun mix of raw punk, garage rock and hard rock and put it together very well. Probably the best band for that.

I think Mudhoney deserves many more votes.

blastingas10 · 04-01-2012, 04:35 PM

Seriously? Aic stadium rock? That's ridiculous. Maybe some of their material. Layne staley was actually in favor of taking the band in a more underground direction. It was Jerry who wanted to move it towards the mainstream. I can see how you can the post-layne AIC a stadium rock band, but other than that I don't understand at all. If any of these bands are stadium rock, it's pearl jam and stp.

Ever heard of mad season? Is that stadium rock? I'd be really surprised if someone said so. That band showed Laynes underground sound a little more.

By the way, im a huge folk fan, it's one of my favorite types of music and I do praise aic's acoustic material, it's really great. AIC is a fairly diverse band, I think. Take their first album, "facelift", it's a pretty heavy album. Then take a song like "don't follow", which is pretty folky - a darker, heavier folk sound. And then there's the song "swing on this", which has a somewhat jazzy bass line and guitar solo. They were the most diverse of any of the bands.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-01-2012, 04:45 PM

View Poll Results: Best band: 90s Seattle Era
Nirvana	47	31.13%
Alice In Chains	40	26.49%
Soundgarden	15	9.93%
Pearl Jam	18	11.92%
Stone Temple Pilots	6	3.97%
Mudhoney	6	3.97%
Other	17	11.26%
Tad	2	1.32%
Voters: 151. You may not vote on this poll

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Seriously? Aic stadium rock? That's ridiculous. Maybe some of their material. Layne staley was actually in favor of taking the band in a more underground direction. It was Jerry who wanted to move it towards the mainstream. I can see how you can the post-layne AIC a stadium rock band, but other than that I don't understand at all. If any of these bands are stadium rock, it's pearl jam and stp. Ever heard of mad season? Is that stadium rock? I'd be really surprised if someone said so. That band showed Laynes underground sound a little more. By the way, im a huge folk fan, it's one of my favorite types of music and I do praise aic's acoustic material, it's really great. AIC is a fairly diverse band, I think. Take their first album, "facelift", it's a pretty heavy album. Then take a song like "don't follow", which is pretty folky - a darker, heavier folk sound. And then there's the song "swing on this", which has a somewhat jazzy bass line and guitar solo. They were the most diverse of any of the bands.