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But that's not the point.

The point is if you want anything new or different in music you don't go see what acts Universal or EMI are currently signing up right now, you go to the underground.

When you're looking at a musical movement in it's infancy you can either look at the people who originated it and made it the name it was or you can look at the bands that record companies sign to cash in on the deal.

I know which I prefer.

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Howard the Duck

but i concur Alternative Rock was marketed virulently to the extent of being the equivalent of stadium rock in the 70s - what with loolapalooza and all

what i'm disagreeing with is that stuff like AIC you seem to profer the view has no musical merit in your original post

me, i'll gladly stick to Mudhoney, Tad, Melvins et all but i do like the potpourri of variety in the Alternative Rock genre (if there ever was a umbrella of this genre)

why should there a need for authenticity to enjoy stuff like AIC

they're certainly great at what they do and deserve their placing in this poll, even if I don't fully subscribe to them being any sort of innovative novel lynchpin of the zeitgeist of its time

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Unknown Soldier

As said before, the whole thread is scandalous Alice in Chains have 16 votes, whilst all the rest have 20 between them!!! Take out Mudhoney as they don't really count and that leaves 15 votes between them! It's kind of sad that Nirvana, Soundgarden, STP and Pearl Jams all superior bands, have all floundered behind AIC by such a vast amount of votes. I think people really need to asses just how good these AIC albums actually are.

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Metal Connoisseur

It's my personal opinion that STP was the first "post-grunge" band as they just rode the coattails of the other Seattle bands. Listen to any of the hit singles from STP and I dare you to say their not nearly identical to any Shinedown, Seether, Puddle of Mudd, etc song.

Dirt from AIC is a classic. The metallic riffs and dark atmosphere were the heaviest thing on the billboard top 200 at the time--which set them apart for me.

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Zer0

What do you mean by this? If there was ever a band that embodied the spirit of grunge it was Mudhoney, and they're way more fun to listen to than the other bands included on the poll.

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Unknown Soldier

I'm not saying AIC are a terrible band or anything and I even picked up Dirt recently on cd as its a very good album, I just don't see them as being as talented as the bands I mentioned previously and neither do I relate to all the hype still surrounding the band.

To be honest, I never thought of Mudhoney as a very good band and would actually sooner listen to AIC, again they had some decent stuff and I won't argue with the fact that they were pivotal to the whole movement and were the big success at Sub-Pop records, without them grunge may not have made its breakthough. Like most of the bands in grunge, Mudhoney's sound was heavily built around their influences, sadly for them though, I find the bands that influenced them to be far superior in every aspect.

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Travis_Bickle

What I’m saying is I like AIC and don’t feel I fall in either category.
I am not one of these two types of people, neither are a lot of my friends. I don’t regularly listen to any stadium rock apart from AIC if they are defined that way.

Alright I’m tired of this garbage and think UH might be just taking the piss, so I’m done.

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Zer0

In that case it's all down to personal taste then, which is no reason to say that a band doesn't deserve to be in the poll.

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BastardofYoung

Difference is Mudhoney IS grunge, plain and simple.

Personally Mudhoney is my favorite of the bunch, hence my vote. The embodied the Seattle music scene and what it would become more than any other band.

They had a fun mix of raw punk, garage rock and hard rock and put it together very well. Probably the best band for that.

I think Mudhoney deserves many more votes.

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blastingas10

Seriously? Aic stadium rock? That's ridiculous. Maybe some of their material. Layne staley was actually in favor of taking the band in a more underground direction. It was Jerry who wanted to move it towards the mainstream. I can see how you can the post-layne AIC a stadium rock band, but other than that I don't understand at all. If any of these bands are stadium rock, it's pearl jam and stp.

Ever heard of mad season? Is that stadium rock? I'd be really surprised if someone said so. That band showed Laynes underground sound a little more.

By the way, im a huge folk fan, it's one of my favorite types of music and I do praise aic's acoustic material, it's really great. AIC is a fairly diverse band, I think. Take their first album, "facelift", it's a pretty heavy album. Then take a song like "don't follow", which is pretty folky - a darker, heavier folk sound. And then there's the song "swing on this", which has a somewhat jazzy bass line and guitar solo. They were the most diverse of any of the bands.