Best Band: 90s Seattle Era.

Travis_Bickle · 03-30-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Is that a generalisation? That's funny because I'm a big Pumpkins fan and I listen to black and death metal occasionally, and I know a few other Pumpkins fans that do similar. Hell I've even seen a guy wearing a Napalm Death t-shirt at a Smashing Pumpkins gig.

No, I said they usually don't, as most of society doesn't. This is my experience at least.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-30-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis_Bickle

It’s not any sort of “answer” unless you consider their acoustic works and heavy metal the same genre. Again this is cross genre appeal that often attracts different crowds.

Loads of rock & metal bands write & release acoustic material. Just because you play some acoustic material it doesn't automatically suddenly make you a success in a different genre.

I don't see a sudden rush of folk fans rushing in here to praise Alice In Chains acoustic material.

Travis_Bickle · 03-30-2012, 06:01 PM

Just go to most metal forums, you'll see they are praised by tons of extreme metal fans. You'll also see them praised by people who are just more into rock.
Is this not cross genre appeal?? Every other artist up here has that to an extent AIC does not?

I mentioned their beautiful acoustic folk albums to show along with a diverse fanbase who listen to much more than stadium rock, they also have a diverse sound which I quite enjoy.

Metal Connoisseur · 03-30-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I don't see a sudden rush of folk fans rushing in here to praise Alice In Chains acoustic material.

Who's a folk aficionado here on MB whose opinion we could solicit?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-30-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis_Bickle

Just go to most metal forums, you'll see they are praised by tons of extreme metal fans. You'll also see them praised by people who are just more into rock.
Is this not cross genre appeal??

No it isn't.
When I talk about cross genre appeal I'm talking about pop fans, jazz fans, hip hop fans, electronica fans, classical fans, folk fans, reggae fans and so on and so on. The sort of people who don't usually buy hard rock albums. Not fans of some other slightly different brand of guitar rock.

Travis_Bickle · 03-30-2012, 06:29 PM

You’re original post had too many generalizations… I mean come on, not every fan of Alice In Chains listens to stadium rock. That’s bull****. They have had an impact on other artists and received recognition.
When I hear “cross genres” I simply think of two or more different music genres, you should have clarified your statements more clearly in regards to this. You made it sound like it’s only people who listen to stadium rock.

Again, do you think every other artist up there has cross genre appeal and an impact on music while AIC has not??

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-30-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis_Bickle

You’re original post had too many generalizations… I mean come on, not every fan of Alice In Chains listens to stadium rock. That’s bull****.

Then what are they listening to Alice In Chains for? By their very definition a stadium rock band.
You can call it 'alternative rock' if you like but it's the same thing.

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They have had an impact on other artists and received recognition.

Fine, Name some non rock & metal artists they've influenced.

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When I hear “cross genres” I simply think of two or more different music genres, you should have clarified your statements more clearly in regards to this. You made it sound like it’s only people who listen to stadium rock.

Is it my fault you have a limited view of what 'cross-genre' means?

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Again, do you think every other artist up there has cross genre appeal and an impact on music while AIC has not??

None of the other artists are winning the poll which was the point my original post made.

Travis_Bickle · 03-30-2012, 08:44 PM

I’m getting tired of this, what pissed me off were your generalizations “People who listen to AIC are one of these two types who like stadium rock”. By saying this you obviously meant stadium rock was their thing. Me being an AIC fan proves this is false, since I listen to hardly any stadium rock. I also wouldn’t call AIC “stadium rock” in general but don’t care to get into that.

Cross-genre appeal means that people who are into a different genre of music like AIC’s nonetheless. This can be 2 or more genres and no, I don’t think they are popular with hip-hop, jazz etc. fans.
But they don’t need to be. My early example was that there are people into extreme metal genres who often respect them as well as those into alt. rock type bands. Are you aware of how different the sound of say, black metal, is to rock ??
I think this qualifies as having cross genre appeal as the styles are different enough.

I asked about the other bands cross-genre appeal and impact on music on the world as a whole because I'm curious and you seemed to be singling out AIC.

Howard the Duck · 03-31-2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Is that a generalisation? That's funny because I'm a big Pumpkins fan and I listen to black and death metal occasionally, and I know a few other Pumpkins fans that do similar. Hell I've even seen a guy wearing a Napalm Death t-shirt at a Smashing Pumpkins gig.

as do I, i listen to thrash, death, black, grindcore yet still love the Pumpkins (well, Mellon Collie anyways)

snagglepuss · 03-31-2012, 09:46 PM

Alice In Chains

View Poll Results: Best band: 90s Seattle Era
Nirvana	47	31.13%
Alice In Chains	40	26.49%
Soundgarden	15	9.93%
Pearl Jam	18	11.92%
Stone Temple Pilots	6	3.97%
Mudhoney	6	3.97%
Other	17	11.26%
Tad	2	1.32%
Voters: 151. You may not vote on this poll

03-30-2012, 06:01 PM	#333 (permalink)
Travis_Bickle Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 94	Just go to most metal forums, you'll see they are praised by tons of extreme metal fans. You'll also see them praised by people who are just more into rock. Is this not cross genre appeal?? Every other artist up here has that to an extent AIC does not? I mentioned their beautiful acoustic folk albums to show along with a diverse fanbase who listen to much more than stadium rock, they also have a diverse sound which I quite enjoy. __________________ “Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to want to think, and this they consider freedom.” -Oswald Spengler-

03-30-2012, 06:29 PM	#336 (permalink)
Travis_Bickle Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 94	You’re original post had too many generalizations… I mean come on, not every fan of Alice In Chains listens to stadium rock. That’s bull****. They have had an impact on other artists and received recognition. When I hear “cross genres” I simply think of two or more different music genres, you should have clarified your statements more clearly in regards to this. You made it sound like it’s only people who listen to stadium rock. Again, do you think every other artist up there has cross genre appeal and an impact on music while AIC has not?? __________________ “Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to want to think, and this they consider freedom.” -Oswald Spengler-

03-30-2012, 08:44 PM	#338 (permalink)
Travis_Bickle Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 94	I’m getting tired of this, what pissed me off were your generalizations “People who listen to AIC are one of these two types who like stadium rock”. By saying this you obviously meant stadium rock was their thing. Me being an AIC fan proves this is false, since I listen to hardly any stadium rock. I also wouldn’t call AIC “stadium rock” in general but don’t care to get into that. Cross-genre appeal means that people who are into a different genre of music like AIC’s nonetheless. This can be 2 or more genres and no, I don’t think they are popular with hip-hop, jazz etc. fans. But they don’t need to be. My early example was that there are people into extreme metal genres who often respect them as well as those into alt. rock type bands. Are you aware of how different the sound of say, black metal, is to rock ?? I think this qualifies as having cross genre appeal as the styles are different enough. I asked about the other bands cross-genre appeal and impact on music on the world as a whole because I'm curious and you seemed to be singling out AIC. __________________ “Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to want to think, and this they consider freedom.” -Oswald Spengler- Last edited by Travis_Bickle; 03-30-2012 at 08:53 PM.

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