Why I hate Metallica (lyrics, tickets, alternative, drum, indie)

Mojo · 12-21-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Guitarists in famous metal band don't make great guitarists.

Thats quite a statement to make. You dont even leave yourself with ANY room for error or exceptions?

scottsy · 12-29-2008, 11:12 PM

Saw Some Kind of Monster when it came out - an interesting and fairly honest / revelaing documentary - was really interesting to see how a set of relationships in a band changes when one member needs to step out to save himself, the tension of Hetfeild leaving, and then the tension of him coming back - very much a changed person.

One thing I always wondered was why the pyschologist wanted to keep working with the band at the end when they VERY clearly were moving in a direction when they didn't need him - that just struck me as weird on his part... and I am kinda glad they let him go, because his psychobabble could get kinda annoying...

Roygbiv · 12-29-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

.i saw this documentary about them, and they were all talking about their feelings like some women...

I talk about my feelings.

TheBig3 · 12-29-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Guitarists in famous metal band don't make great guitarists. Iommi and Blackmore were at the forefront of metal but their work is built around simple riffs and linear soloing. They were never (at least in a traditional sense) "good" guitarists. Songwriters - absolutely.

I do agree with you about Kirk. He is consistently overrated, but mostly by people who haven't listened to enough metal to fill a teacup.

Why would they have to listen to Metal to appreciate him? Thats foolish.

Half the metal that could fill a tea cup is self-indulgent noodling, with the only redeeming quality being that it isn't the rage-tard on the microphone who can't give himself an aneurysm soon enough.

Mojo · 12-30-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsy

One thing I always wondered was why the pyschologist wanted to keep working with the band at the end when they VERY clearly were moving in a direction when they didn't need him - that just struck me as weird on his part... and I am kinda glad they let him go, because his psychobabble could get kinda annoying...

I thought it was a combination of the man treating them like he would any other patient and willing them to stay on if he viewed his work as unfinished....and wanting to tour with one of the biggest metal bands on the planet like a 14 year old girl.

punkrawker07 · 12-30-2008, 01:16 PM

hmmmmmm.........reasons to hate metallica. there are so many. they may have had a lot going for them in the beginning but when you start getting driven by marketing and money your whole image and music goes down the drain. some kind of monster? lame and pathetic. metallica's version of a reality show. no one wants to see a bunch of grown men in a metal band crying about their feelings. i'll give them props for their early work and i actually don't mind their new release other then it being a little repetitive and the vocals and lyrics have gone downhill. lars is a douche and they should just retire as death magnetic is probably as good as they'll ever do now.

lucifer_sam · 12-30-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Why would they have to listen to Metal to appreciate him? Thats foolish.

Half the metal that could fill a tea cup is self-indulgent noodling, with the only redeeming quality being that it isn't the rage-tard on the microphone who can't give himself an aneurysm soon enough.

I'm saying that the people who hold Kirk in such high esteem haven't heard anything by similarly talented artists: Devin Townsend, Lee Altus, Marty Friedman, Mikael Akerfeldt, etc. They're not obscure and they certainly aren't noodlers. But they put Hammett to shame easily enough.

TheBig3 · 12-31-2008, 12:04 AM

Right, out of the people I know on that list, their noodlers.

Yes they are obscure. And whats "put Hammett to shame."

How? why? Their limited in understanding the organics of a song. When people immerse themselves too much in one genre they can hear differences that a majority of people hear as all the same.

Edit: and by the by, if their similarly talents, what are you basing that on?

metallicafan27 · 01-02-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Why can't your plane go down? Both bands are the pinnacle of what music is, and just cause it doesn't fit your preteen defnition of what music is (fast angry and loud) doesn't mean their crap. Even noticed that the "bad" music they make is better than 90% of the "great" music other bands make?

I hate stupid people.

exactly

metallicafan27 · 01-02-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

how can anyone listen to a band that stood at the forefront of the battle against napster.seeming that they're supposed to be an "alternative" band i was completely shocked by their actions. why did they do that when we know they're rolling in money. if they never published another album they would still live like kings. i'll tell you why..because they're corporate lackeys. i could understand if it was britney spears who was created by the industry to make money, but the main goal for alternative bands should be just creating good music and spreading the vibe.i'll tell you who are real musicians, the ones that don't care about getting rich, but only care about creating good music, like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, who, when Metallica came to Croatia and then canceled their concert just hours before it was supposed to be held ,because they didn't think they made enough money from the tickets, came in front of the place where it was supposed to happen with acoustic guitars and just entertained the people who stud stupefied in front, and then later did a free show in another club for all the people who were stud up. Now those are REAL musicians, not, to paraphrase Kurt Cobain ,"corporate cock metal" that is Metallica.
p.s.: not to mention that they're real bitches in real life...i saw this documentary about them, and they were all talking about their feelings like some women...you won't see Zach de la Rocha or Cedric Bixler speaking about how " they've really grown as people and went through some tuff times but have talked about it and grew stronger.." yada yada...

ok so you know metallica is not "alternative" they are something your narrow little mind has not heard of. it is called "Thrash Metal" and they are innovators. and second off they were originally on Megaforce records. Megaforce was a U.S. label created to release metal artists. and they had a cult following until they released the single "Enter Sandman" from the black album. and third they sued napster because they noticed they were screwing indie bands out of their money.
sorry for double post.

12-29-2008, 11:12 PM	#162 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	Saw Some Kind of Monster when it came out - an interesting and fairly honest / revelaing documentary - was really interesting to see how a set of relationships in a band changes when one member needs to step out to save himself, the tension of Hetfeild leaving, and then the tension of him coming back - very much a changed person. One thing I always wondered was why the pyschologist wanted to keep working with the band at the end when they VERY clearly were moving in a direction when they didn't need him - that just struck me as weird on his part... and I am kinda glad they let him go, because his psychobabble could get kinda annoying... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef. Last edited by scottsy; 12-29-2008 at 11:20 PM.

12-31-2008, 12:04 AM	#168 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Right, out of the people I know on that list, their noodlers. Yes they are obscure. And whats "put Hammett to shame." How? why? Their limited in understanding the organics of a song. When people immerse themselves too much in one genre they can hear differences that a majority of people hear as all the same. Edit: and by the by, if their similarly talents, what are you basing that on? __________________ I've moved to a new address Last edited by TheBig3; 12-31-2008 at 11:21 AM.

12-30-2008, 01:16 PM	#166 (permalink)
punkrawker07 Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 94	hmmmmmm.........reasons to hate metallica. there are so many. they may have had a lot going for them in the beginning but when you start getting driven by marketing and money your whole image and music goes down the drain. some kind of monster? lame and pathetic. metallica's version of a reality show. no one wants to see a bunch of grown men in a metal band crying about their feelings. i'll give them props for their early work and i actually don't mind their new release other then it being a little repetitive and the vocals and lyrics have gone downhill. lars is a douche and they should just retire as death magnetic is probably as good as they'll ever do now.