Why I hate Metallica (ticket, punk, rock, cds, albums)

scottsy · 01-08-2009, 10:43 PM

The "ping" to the drum sound was a bit distracting, I have to agree - if they could hacve mixed that down, it would have been a good thing...

Also they shouldn't have been as nazi as they were with the whole no guitar solos thing... quite a few of the songs on St. Anger would have definitely been augmented by a good, slammin' guitar solo...

PinkWolf · 01-11-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsy

The "ping" to the drum sound was a bit distracting, I have to agree - if they could hacve mixed that down, it would have been a good thing...

Actually, there's a Youtube video of Lars explaining the drum sound on St. Anger. He basically loosened up the snare drum wires and that was it.

Dr_Rez · 01-11-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PinkWolf

Actually, there's a Youtube video of Lars explaining the drum sound on St. Anger. He basically loosened up the snare drum wires and that was it.

Thats probably the first time anyone's ever done that. I take back all the bad things I said about him. What a creative genius.

scottsy · 01-12-2009, 11:12 PM

It's an effect that works pretty well in places and it works well on St. Anger too - it just gets a bit repetetive after listening to it for as while - perhaps i need to distract my ears from that sound when I listen.....

lieasleep · 01-12-2009, 11:50 PM

honestly, i'm with the first post in here. I mean i respect metallica on some level but at the same time, they represent everything i hate about music. They are corporate sell-outs. I mean I'm a bit of an extremist because i don't think any artist should be looking to make more than a liveable wage off of their music. Of course, musicians becoming wealthy comes with the larger labels and any degree of higher popularity which can be understood. But, when a band is worth near the hundred million dollar mark (if not more) and is leading a front against peer to peer networking or refusing to play shows due to low ticket sales, the band becomes just low and greedy.

Honestly, i think metallica makes music that is watered down and boring. I would rather play a metallica album than "rock-a-bye-baby," which makes it easy for me to say this stuff. But still, even if you like Metallica can't you at least admit what outright douchebags they are?

Mojo · 01-13-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lieasleep

honestly, i'm with the first post in here. I mean i respect metallica on some level but at the same time, they represent everything i hate about music. They are corporate sell-outs. I mean I'm a bit of an extremist because i don't think any artist should be looking to make more than a liveable wage off of their music. Of course, musicians becoming wealthy comes with the larger labels and any degree of higher popularity which can be understood. But, when a band is worth near the hundred million dollar mark (if not more) and is leading a front against peer to peer networking or refusing to play shows due to low ticket sales, the band becomes just low and greedy.

Honestly, i think metallica makes music that is watered down and boring. I would rather play a metallica album than "rock-a-bye-baby," which makes it easy for me to say this stuff. But still, even if you like Metallica can't you at least admit what outright douchebags they are?

Money is not what is important here! Their music is copyrighted. Therefore it is illegal to download for free. If a band feels strongly about that it should make no difference whether they are millionaires or struggling to make ends meet. I download so again, I'm not trying to be Mr. High and Mighty but what Lars Ulrich did was sue what he saw as the source of millions of people being able to download HIS music for free without his permission and set the ball rolling for Napster being closed down/restricted. Most people hate Lars Ulrich because he took away something they could use to download music so that they didnt have to put their hand in their pocket. Boo hoo.

And gigs often get cancelled due to low ticket sales.

I guess Im just struggling to see the connections between those two examples and "sell outs".

lieasleep · 01-13-2009, 12:02 PM

of course they are sell outs, they care more about making money than making music. there is an entire movement "musicians for p2p sharing" that supports torrenting, limewire etc. because it is about getting music out there not making money and besides how much does an artist make off of their record sales? like 5%? and Metallica is going to get thier panties in a bunch over 5% or 10% of sales? they.are.sell.outs.

Mojo · 01-13-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lieasleep

of course they are sell outs, they care more about making money than making music. there is an entire movement "musicians for p2p sharing" that supports torrenting, limewire etc. because it is about getting music out there not making money and besides how much does an artist make off of their record sales? like 5%? and Metallica is going to get thier panties in a bunch over 5% or 10% of sales? they.are.sell.outs.

First of all I didnt say that Metallica were sell outs. Read again. And for the interests of fairness I also didnt say that they werent.

What I did say however is you still havent really explained WHY Metallica are sell outs. They sold out because they tried to stop their music being illegally traded?

**Janszoon** · 01-13-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lieasleep

of course they are sell outs, they care more about making money than making music. there is an entire movement "musicians for p2p sharing" that supports torrenting, limewire etc. because it is about getting music out there not making money and besides how much does an artist make off of their record sales? like 5%? and Metallica is going to get thier panties in a bunch over 5% or 10% of sales? they.are.sell.outs.

Hey, can you come work for me for free? I think you already have enough money.

punkrawker07 · 01-13-2009, 01:39 PM

i don't see the problem people make out of p2p sharing. most people will buy a cd if they like it. i have downloaded a lot of music but i still go out and buy the cds of bands i like. i have found a bunch of bands that if i didn't find it online i probably would have never even heard of. i don't see anyting wrong with it. if you only dl and never buy a cd well you probably wouldn't have bought the cd anyways even if you didn't dl music.

metallica are huge sellouts. there are differing opinions on the matter but you can't honestly tell me that they are in it for the music and not money. they put out 4 great albums and have ridden that train into the ground making mediocre music at best since then. yes they sue napster but they also went after the end users as well, their fans. i don't believe any of the fans got sued but they were banned from sites. they then produce some kind of monster which they might as well of called metallica's reality show. they are an overrated band by far and in my opinion are sellouts because they are driven by money.

01-08-2009, 10:43 PM	#211 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	The "ping" to the drum sound was a bit distracting, I have to agree - if they could hacve mixed that down, it would have been a good thing... Also they shouldn't have been as nazi as they were with the whole no guitar solos thing... quite a few of the songs on St. Anger would have definitely been augmented by a good, slammin' guitar solo... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

01-12-2009, 11:12 PM	#214 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	It's an effect that works pretty well in places and it works well on St. Anger too - it just gets a bit repetetive after listening to it for as while - perhaps i need to distract my ears from that sound when I listen..... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

01-12-2009, 11:50 PM	#215 (permalink)
lieasleep Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 355	honestly, i'm with the first post in here. I mean i respect metallica on some level but at the same time, they represent everything i hate about music. They are corporate sell-outs. I mean I'm a bit of an extremist because i don't think any artist should be looking to make more than a liveable wage off of their music. Of course, musicians becoming wealthy comes with the larger labels and any degree of higher popularity which can be understood. But, when a band is worth near the hundred million dollar mark (if not more) and is leading a front against peer to peer networking or refusing to play shows due to low ticket sales, the band becomes just low and greedy. Honestly, i think metallica makes music that is watered down and boring. I would rather play a metallica album than "rock-a-bye-baby," which makes it easy for me to say this stuff. But still, even if you like Metallica can't you at least admit what outright douchebags they are? __________________ a song well sung is a sung well song so sing.

01-13-2009, 12:02 PM	#217 (permalink)
lieasleep Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 355	of course they are sell outs, they care more about making money than making music. there is an entire movement "musicians for p2p sharing" that supports torrenting, limewire etc. because it is about getting music out there not making money and besides how much does an artist make off of their record sales? like 5%? and Metallica is going to get thier panties in a bunch over 5% or 10% of sales? they.are.sell.outs. __________________ a song well sung is a sung well song so sing.

01-13-2009, 01:39 PM	#220 (permalink)
punkrawker07 Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 94	i don't see the problem people make out of p2p sharing. most people will buy a cd if they like it. i have downloaded a lot of music but i still go out and buy the cds of bands i like. i have found a bunch of bands that if i didn't find it online i probably would have never even heard of. i don't see anyting wrong with it. if you only dl and never buy a cd well you probably wouldn't have bought the cd anyways even if you didn't dl music. metallica are huge sellouts. there are differing opinions on the matter but you can't honestly tell me that they are in it for the music and not money. they put out 4 great albums and have ridden that train into the ground making mediocre music at best since then. yes they sue napster but they also went after the end users as well, their fans. i don't believe any of the fans got sued but they were banned from sites. they then produce some kind of monster which they might as well of called metallica's reality show. they are an overrated band by far and in my opinion are sellouts because they are driven by money.