Why I hate Metallica (lyric, mp3, albums, u2, quote)

**Janszoon** · 01-06-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

The point is, the 'Mexican' or 'Danish' or whatever part is irrelevant to him being an a$$hole.

It might be true that he is Mexican and also happens to be an a$$hole, but the construction 'a [x nationality] a$$hole' carries the implication of there being some connection between his being an a$$hole and his given nationality. Such phrases are conventionally used in the context of prejudice. E.g. if somebody said 'he is a black idiot'. It may be true that the subject of discussion is an idiot and also happens to be black, but phrasing it in that way suggests a prejudice and some connection between his race and his being an idiot.

I see one of us is taking this conversation seriously.

Rainard Jalen · 01-06-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I see one of us is taking this conversation seriously.

I had been playing around originally, but then there were a few comments that suggested it was necessary to point out that saying "a <insert nationality> idiot" is actually derogatory. Somebody else had denied that it was.

lucifer_sam · 01-06-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

I had been playing around originally

You have a horrible sense of humor.

Rainard Jalen · 01-06-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

You have a horrible sense of humor.

yours aint so great either. besides, i was humouring myself.

jackhammer · 01-06-2009, 02:13 PM

Unless someone has a genuine complaint can we get back on topic please?

Rainard Jalen · 01-06-2009, 02:25 PM

I hate Metallica. Not because of anti-piracy action, Napster or whatever, but because they've been releasing seriously lamea$s albums for the best part of the last 20 years and couldn't possibly have had any intent behind those records other than exploiting their popularity and milking the public.

lucifer_sam · 01-06-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

I hate Metallica. Not because of anti-piracy action, Napster or whatever, but because they've been releasing seriously lamea$s albums for the best part of the last 20 years and couldn't possibly have had any intent behind those records other than exploiting their popularity and milking the public.

It's happened to other bands before. And while I can't say that I enjoyed their last album, it certainly was a return to their pre-Black Album sound. For the record, Ride the Lightning shits on about 95% of other thrash albums.

jackhammer · 01-06-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

It's happened to other bands before. And while I can't say that I enjoyed their last album, it certainly was a return to their pre-Black Album sound. For the record, Ride the Lightning shits on about 95% of other thrash albums.

To be fair there is a hell of a lot of derivative Thrash out there and genuinely GREAT albums that have stood the test of time are relatively small in comparison to how much was released. The only thing that let's Ride The Lightning down for me is the production. It's a little wooly but I usually alternate between 'Ride' and 'Master' for favourite although I haven't listened to any for a long while now.

lucifer_sam · 01-06-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

To be fair there is a hell of a lot of derivative Thrash out there and genuinely GREAT albums that have stood the test of time are relatively small in comparison to how much was released. The only thing that let's Ride The Lightning down for me is the production. It's a little wooly but I usually alternate between 'Ride' and 'Master' for favourite although I haven't listened to any for a long while now.

That's why I said it. I can't honestly claim that it's the best thrash album of all time, but I'm more than familiar with the surfeit of derivative tosh that got mixed in. I've never really noticed the production on Ride the Lightning (sans Fade to Black), but I can imagine it's worse than MOP.

GravitySlips · 01-06-2009, 03:38 PM

I find myself LOVING early metallica albums since I actually gave them a chance.

Kill 'Em All is my favourite. Fu'cking awesome record.

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01-06-2009, 02:25 PM	#196 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	I hate Metallica. Not because of anti-piracy action, Napster or whatever, but because they've been releasing seriously lamea$s albums for the best part of the last 20 years and couldn't possibly have had any intent behind those records other than exploiting their popularity and milking the public.

01-06-2009, 03:38 PM	#200 (permalink)
GravitySlips Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,578	I find myself LOVING early metallica albums since I actually gave them a chance. Kill 'Em All is my favourite. Fu'cking awesome record.