What Are You listening To V.III Metal!

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-01-2018, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unitron

Nope. Arch Enemy with Alyssa blows. They now sound like every modern female-fronted metalcore band, complete with a lack of memorable riffs. Angela Gossow was actually a death metal vocalist.

The thing is, that at first, I agreed with you. You know, back when the first album with Alyssa came out.

But having listened to those two Alyssa albums a lot over the last few years, they've grown on me a lot. Basically, I think the songs are more memorable, the production better and that Alyssa is a more versatile and expressive vocalist than Angela. I still think Wages of Sin and Khaos Legions are good albums, but I listen to the two newest albums far more these days.

EDIT: Although it has to be said that that bendy main riff in My Apocalypse is really cool.

Unitron · 11-01-2018, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

The thing is, that at first, I agreed with you. You know, back when the first album with Alyssa came out.

But having listened to those two albums a lot over the last few years, they've grown on me a lot. Basically, I think the songs are more memorable, the production better and that Alyssa is a more versatile and expressive vocalist than Angela. I still think Wages of Sin and Khaos Legions are good albums, but I listen to the two newest albums far more these days.

EDIT: Although it has to be said that that bendy main riff in My Apocalypse is really cool.

I think the new albums are incredibly overproduced and way too polished, and the only song with Alyssa I can remember how it goes is the one you posted, and that's because of how bad it sounds. I guess "more versatile" works, but that's only because Alyssa does clean vocals which have no bearing on quality.

To each their own though, I just don't get the appeal. It just sounds too watered down and not very metal.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-01-2018, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unitron

I think the new albums are incredibly overproduced and way too polished, and the only song with Alyssa I can remember how it goes is the one you posted, and that's because of how bad it sounds. I guess "more versatile" works, but that's only because Alyssa does clean vocals which have no bearing on quality.

To each their own though, I just don't get the appeal. It just sounds too watered down and not very metal.

Across those two albums, there's precisely 1 song with clean vocals. The way in which I think she's more versatile entirely has to do with her approach to harsh vocals.

And I think the two new albums sound much like the ones with Angela, but they come out nicer in terms of the bass and drum sounds on my stereo. Seems more balanced and warm sounding to my ears.

I probably don't like Arch Enemy for the same things. I find overly "brutal" bands boring. You can only go with that mood for so long before it all blends together.

Unitron · 11-01-2018, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

And I think the two new albums sound much like the one's with Angela, but they come out nicer in terms of the bass and drum sounds on my stereo. Seems more balanced and warm sounding to my ears.

They sound nothing like Doomsday Machine at least, and that's really the only Arch Enemy album that I LOVE. They have more good albums, but Doomsday Machine has such a unique sound that I've honestly never heard quite replicated. I think it's something to do with the atmosphere it has.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-01-2018, 12:33 PM

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They sound nothing like Doomsday Machine at least, and that's really the only Arch Enemy album that I LOVE. They have more good albums, but Doomsday Machine has such a unique sound that I've honestly never heard quite replicated. I think it's something to do with the atmosphere it has.

Not my favorite metal band by any means, but I like to listen to their best few albums now and again. I don't personally have much of a relationship with Doomsday Machine. Maybe I would feel it was something special if I'd listen to it a lot more.
Back in the day, It tended to collect dust while I was listening to a few of their other Angela fronted albums instead. I can name good songs from it though.

The only AE album with Angela that I don't like at all is Rise of the Tyrant.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-01-2018, 12:47 PM

Still putting out decent-to-good albums, but I really feel like MERIT must have written the lyrics for the songs on their last album.

Megadeth - Lying in State

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxsnOm2kLg

Unitron · 11-01-2018, 12:57 PM

^I thought Dystopia was their best album since Countdown to Extinction. The hooks and melodies on that album are some of Megadeth's best in years, and I personally love the lyrics. Say what you will, but Mustaine is an excellent songwriter. This opening bassline screams classic Megadeth:

Currently listening to:

The best Queensryche album, and still one of the most unique albums I've ever heard. I'm probably talking about atmosphere too much in this thread, but this album ****ing nails the cold, apocalyptic, and futuristic sound.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-01-2018, 01:31 PM

I've basically liked their 4 last albums quite a bit. I feel like people judged Super Collider mostly on the sub-par single, but there was some pretty cool songs on that album imo

Dystopia has grown on me a lot. I didn't like it much in the beginning, actually, but it does have a lot of memorable songs and they're more different from each other than I expected.

The Batlord · 11-01-2018, 01:39 PM

Arch. Enemy. Suck. At the very least with Gossow they've always been overproduced, sterile, and just ****ing lame. Like I imagine what Carcass would have sounded like if Swansong had never been recorded and Michael Amott had replaced all the other members of the band who remember being in a grindcore band so he could write a bunch of nifty weedly weedly bull**** with the simulation of balls. Cause that's what Arch Enemy is.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-01-2018, 01:41 PM

Ehhh... I'm not gonna put too much energy into defending the band, but I definitely think Carcass is boring trash with or without Amott.
Arch Enemy before Angela was a 4/10 band.
Arch Enemy with Angela was a 6/10 band.
Arch Enemy with Alyssa is a 7.5/10 band.

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Unitron Paragraph President Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Burning Star Posts: 837	^I thought Dystopia was their best album since Countdown to Extinction. The hooks and melodies on that album are some of Megadeth's best in years, and I personally love the lyrics. Say what you will, but Mustaine is an excellent songwriter. This opening bassline screams classic Megadeth: Currently listening to: The best Queensryche album, and still one of the most unique albums I've ever heard. I'm probably talking about atmosphere too much in this thread, but this album ****ing nails the cold, apocalyptic, and futuristic sound. __________________ Last.FM RYM

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~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	Still putting out decent-to-good albums, but I really feel like MERIT must have written the lyrics for the songs on their last album. Megadeth - Lying in State https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxsnOm2kLg

11-01-2018, 01:31 PM	#6378 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	I've basically liked their 4 last albums quite a bit. I feel like people judged Super Collider mostly on the sub-par single, but there was some pretty cool songs on that album imo Dystopia has grown on me a lot. I didn't like it much in the beginning, actually, but it does have a lot of memorable songs and they're more different from each other than I expected.

11-01-2018, 01:41 PM	#6380 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	Ehhh... I'm not gonna put too much energy into defending the band, but I definitely think Carcass is boring trash with or without Amott. Arch Enemy before Angela was a 4/10 band. Arch Enemy with Angela was a 6/10 band. Arch Enemy with Alyssa is a 7.5/10 band.