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Old 12-25-2018, 10:59 PM   #6781 (permalink)
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Satriani normally doesn't really fall into "metal" territory for me per-se, but this opening track from his drum n' bass / VGM flavored album 'Engines Of Creation' is surprisingly chunky. Gives me those Nintendo / PS2 soundtrack feels too.

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Old 12-26-2018, 04:23 AM   #6782 (permalink)
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Old 12-26-2018, 05:36 PM   #6783 (permalink)
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I think there's a very specific idea of thrash and what pure thrash is that I don't know that anyone but me will get and how I view thrash in a pure sense. I don't even know that it makes sense but it's just a feel that's perhaps very idiosyncratic and even nonsensical. But I think for a lot of people that Slayer is the epitome of thrash. Like Reign in Blood is the thrash Bible and is everything they think of when they think of thrash. But not for me.

For me Bonded By Blood is the most pure thrash album that has ever and will ever exist. And Vio-lence's Eternal Nightmare is the update of that album and is therefore the other most thrash album that will ever exist. It's that album but more brutal and between those albums is basically a very straight line of what thrash is and anything that deviates from that is at least touching on something else at least for someone who is a thrash freak raised on thrash and who cares far more about the idea of what is thrash than is warranted or sensible.

Slayer's first album is speed metal with hints of Venom's black metal. Their Haunting the Chapel EP is more advanced and thrash/speed metal with also black metal and is also therefore not pure thrash metal. Hell Awaits is pretty ****ing thrash metal but also kinda still early black metal. So not the purest of thrash metal.

Reign in Blood has some truly pure thrash metal but... I don't know... it has maybe too much hardcore punk but I think the thing that stops me from calling it the purest of thrash is that for me thrash metal has the kind of chaotic Judas Priest riffs from the seventies that more embody... I guess Bonded By Blood (****ing really? but it somehow makes sense) but really embody the riff style of Vio-lence's Eternal Nightmare. Reign in Blood simply doesn't have the gnarly riffs that I call the purest of thrash. Not that that's bad but it's not pure thrash to me.

I really don't know how to justify it but... there's something between the Exodus and Vio-lence albums that Slayer doesn't have that makes the Exodus debut the epitome of thrash that also makes Vio-lence's debut also the epitome of thrash. Something that Slayer never quite embodied. And I can't quite figure out what that is and so I grasp at straws to figure out what that is that makes me so confident in my opinion that Slayer never quite embodied the same sound that both of the other two albums did.

Whatever I'm listening to Eternal Nightmare for the tenth time this week cause holy **** it's amazing.

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Old 12-27-2018, 06:44 PM   #6784 (permalink)
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Kinda off topic, but is Metallica's Black Album considered to be a pop-thrash record or just....I dunno, borderline grunge?

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I really don't know how to justify it but... there's something between the Exodus and Vio-lence albums that Slayer doesn't have that makes the Exodus debut the epitome of thrash that also makes Vio-lence's debut also the epitome of thrash. Something that Slayer never quite embodied. And I can't quite figure out what that is and so I grasp at straws to figure out what that is that makes me so confident in my opinion that Slayer never quite embodied the same sound that both of the other two albums did.
Isn't Hell Awaits your favorite Slayer album? That one is almost a prog-metal record in some ways, so maybe your sense is that Slayer aren't really a pure thrash band because they embraced other musical elements very early on in their career.
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Isn't Hell Awaits your favorite Slayer album? That one is almost a prog-metal record in some ways, so maybe your sense is that Slayer aren't really a pure thrash band because they embraced other musical elements very early on in their career.
I love Slayer but they're not the first band I think of when I think of the purest form of thrash.
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Whiplash comes to mind
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They're more speed metal.
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dude Whiplash are great raw thrash:


can't say the same for their album covers though lol
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