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The Batlord

Exodus rage, thrash, and destroy greater than any band except for maybe Slayer and even then they kind of do so in enough of a different way that it's kind of hard to definitively say which one do so the best when both are firing on all cylinders. Slayer just didn't have the singer issues that Exodus did (Zetro was almost NEVER the vocalist Exodus needed except for parts of Fabulous Disaster and the first four or five songs from Tempo of the Damned) and generally never went down the MTV thrash route that partially castrated Exodus in the late 80s/early 90s (I don't know if South of Heaven qualifies as MTV thrash but good songs or not it's weak and I don't care what anyone says).

But when Exodus are doing what they need to do they are Slayer's equal and can in fact be the best metal band on the planet. Like here.

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Unitron

lol disagree completely. Zetro is the best Exodus vocalist, honestly never cared for much of their stuff without him. Maybe I like him best because he sounds closer to Bobby Blitz. Which speaking of, Overkill > Exodus

Mosh anthems, man:

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Mondo Bungle

I like him better with Tenet

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Unitron

Never heard of them before, but sounds good. Reminds me of the Tempo of the Damned album meets Strapping Young Lad, which makes sense considering those involved.

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The Batlord

I think there's a very specific idea of thrash and what pure thrash is that I don't know that anyone but me will get and how I view thrash in a pure sense. I don't even know that it makes sense but it's just a feel that's perhaps very idiosyncratic and even nonsensical. But I think for a lot of people that Slayer is the epitome of thrash. Like Reign in Blood is the thrash Bible and is everything they think of when they think of thrash. But not for me.

For me Bonded By Blood is the most pure thrash album that has ever and will ever exist. And Vio-lence's Eternal Nightmare is the update of that album and is therefore the other most thrash album that will ever exist. It's that album but more brutal and between those albums is basically a very straight line of what thrash is and anything that deviates from that is at least touching on something else at least for someone who is a thrash freak raised on thrash and who cares far more about the idea of what is thrash than is warranted or sensible.

Slayer's first album is speed metal with hints of Venom's black metal. Their Haunting the Chapel EP is more advanced and thrash/speed metal with also black metal and is also therefore not pure thrash metal. Hell Awaits is pretty ****ing thrash metal but also kinda still early black metal. So not the purest of thrash metal.

Reign in Blood has some truly pure thrash metal but... I don't know... it has maybe too much hardcore punk but I think the thing that stops me from calling it the purest of thrash is that for me thrash metal has the kind of chaotic Judas Priest riffs from the seventies that more embody... I guess Bonded By Blood (****ing really? but it somehow makes sense) but really embody the riff style of Vio-lence's Eternal Nightmare. Reign in Blood simply doesn't have the gnarly riffs that I call the purest of thrash. Not that that's bad but it's not pure thrash to me.

I really don't know how to justify it but... there's something between the Exodus and Vio-lence albums that Slayer doesn't have that makes the Exodus debut the epitome of thrash that also makes Vio-lence's debut also the epitome of thrash. Something that Slayer never quite embodied. And I can't quite figure out what that is and so I grasp at straws to figure out what that is that makes me so confident in my opinion that Slayer never quite embodied the same sound that both of the other two albums did.

Whatever I'm listening to Eternal Nightmare for the tenth time this week cause holy **** it's amazing.

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Anteater

Kinda off topic, but is Metallica's Black Album considered to be a pop-thrash record or just....I dunno, borderline grunge?

Isn't Hell Awaits your favorite Slayer album? That one is almost a prog-metal record in some ways, so maybe your sense is that Slayer aren't really a pure thrash band because they embraced other musical elements very early on in their career.

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The Batlord

**** yeah boi!

I love Slayer but they're not the first band I think of when I think of the purest form of thrash.

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