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Old 11-08-2017, 08:48 PM   #5481 (permalink)
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Damn. That's two minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:48 PM   #5482 (permalink)
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It has better riffs, and all the songs on Eternal Nightmare are just cheap copies of this
To be honest, in thrash metal I do not see that as a huge deal. At some point everything can start sounding like something else. Its better to just listen to everything individually and on its own than worry about who is trying to copy what. SOme just do it better or worse, but like Hardcore punk, most all great bands are just clones of another.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:51 PM   #5483 (permalink)
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cheap copies of sick riffs are by nature also sick riffs
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:56 PM   #5484 (permalink)
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To be honest, in thrash metal I do not see that as a huge deal. At some point everything can start sounding like something else. Its better to just listen to everything individually and on its own than worry about who is trying to copy what. SOme just do it better or worse, but like Hardcore punk, most all great bands are just clones of another.
You misunderstand. The Batlord is slowly warming to darkness descends, and I constantly spam it in this thread to get him to like it.

And yeah, everybody stole riffs in the 80s.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:10 PM   #5485 (permalink)
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Good is pretty much the level. It just rocks and is somewhat cool with the industrial elements and I've never even listened to a Machine Head album
Bro, if you only ever listen to one Machine Head album then listen to Burn My Eyes. Don't listen to the poseurs. They may have improved their songwriting chops later, but they never had half of the aggression as on their debut.



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It has better riffs, and all the songs on Eternal Nightmare are just cheap copies of this
The riffs are not nearly as good and I'm honestly confounded that you would even say that. I'm convinced that you're simply not getting Eternal Nightmare if you like any Vio-lence album more than EN. And while I like Darkness Descends more than I used to I'm pretty sure I'll never like it anywhere near as much as I do Eternal Nightmare, which is as I said one of the best metal albums ever recorded and one I get on a primal level, and while I can see the resemblance with that song, Vio-lence did it totally better.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:37 PM   #5486 (permalink)
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These riffs rip it up so hard, and the drumming is fantastic.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:46 PM   #5487 (permalink)
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Yes that song is god(less). Basically the template for Pantera. The more I go on the more I agree that Pantera didn't so much ripoff Exhorder, but they definitely took a very large chunk of their sound from them almost as is.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:39 PM   #5488 (permalink)
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If this album had some better riffs (i.e. not short, edgy, chugging riffs), I'd actually enjoy this. As it is now, it's very bad.

Seriously though, it's like they didn't even try writing good riffs.
Images & Words isn't really about the riffs (though 'Under A Glass Moon' and 'Learning To Live' have their moments). It's about the solos and Kevin Moore's fantastic synths.

If you want prog-metal from the early 90's with more serious riffage, check out Last Crack.

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Old 11-09-2017, 03:27 PM   #5489 (permalink)
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Guess I like Sodom now too.
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Guess I like Sodom now too.
A great album

Their previous album "Obsessed by Cruelty" was black metal influenced, which they would drop for "Persecution Mania", which is the vastly better album.
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