Best Metal Album of All Time?

Syrith · 09-19-2011, 01:16 AM

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RVCA · 09-19-2011, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Syrith

Yes, they are. Black Sabbath invented metal. Without Black Sabbath, there is no metal. None. None more metal.

So then I guess that means I'm not entitled to my opinion, thanks for letting me know

BastardofYoung · 09-19-2011, 01:24 AM

Blue Cheer released their debut album 2 years before Sabbath released their debut album.

Many have debated this topic as to who the first heavy metal band were, or at least who were amongst the first to shape what Heavy Metal would become. Blue Cheer's cover of "Summertime Blues" from 1968 predated Sabbath, and often time is credited with being first. One may argue that Sabbath was around at that time, while they were still known as Earth.. but they had yet to record anything or be known to enough to make an impact.

Saying Sabbath invented metal is just a guess, but even before Sabbath there was Blue Cheer.

Could even go further back and say Iron Butterfly, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin or Cream...

Heavy Metal was not even coined as a term until 1971, and it was used to describe Humble Pie. Coined by Mike Saunders, who would front a punk band called Angry Samoans.

Sabbath may have given Metal an identity and made the fixed the blue print, but to say they invented it.. is debatable.

Syrith · 09-19-2011, 01:26 AM

No, it really isn't. Compare Black Sabbath (the song) to that cover and you tell me which one sounds like metal.

BastardofYoung · 09-19-2011, 01:32 AM

studio version:

Sabbath gave Heavy Metal an image, but the sound was already established and being shaped before they came along.

BastardofYoung · 09-19-2011, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Syrith

No, it really isn't. Compare Black Sabbath (the song) to that cover and you tell me which one sounds like metal.

listen to the one i just posted. Put up a live version, but studio version makes more sense.

anyways, I am more than familiar with the song Black Sabbath. Do not need to listen again.

Syrith · 09-19-2011, 01:51 AM

Hell you already said it yourself. Black Sabbath made the identity, the blueprint. No metal band has ever modeled themselves after ****in Blue Cheer.

RVCA · 09-19-2011, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Syrith

Hell you already said it yourself. Black Sabbath made the identity, the blueprint. No metal band has ever modeled themselves after ****in Blue Cheer.

So because the Wright brothers made the first aircraft, no aircraft since has surpassed their original craft in quality? The argument that you're making is not logically sound

BastardofYoung · 09-19-2011, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Syrith

Hell you already said it yourself. Black Sabbath made the identity, the blueprint. No metal band has ever modeled themselves after ****in Blue Cheer.

lol. try again champ.

BastardofYoung · 09-19-2011, 02:41 AM

anyways, don't encourage him anymore...

anybody who says things this like:

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Originally Posted by Syrith

You like black metal, your opinion is irrelevant

http://www.musicbanter.com/1074758-post848.html

is obviously not qualified to pass judgement on anything.

09-19-2011, 01:24 AM	#53 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Blue Cheer released their debut album 2 years before Sabbath released their debut album. Many have debated this topic as to who the first heavy metal band were, or at least who were amongst the first to shape what Heavy Metal would become. Blue Cheer's cover of "Summertime Blues" from 1968 predated Sabbath, and often time is credited with being first. One may argue that Sabbath was around at that time, while they were still known as Earth.. but they had yet to record anything or be known to enough to make an impact. Saying Sabbath invented metal is just a guess, but even before Sabbath there was Blue Cheer. Could even go further back and say Iron Butterfly, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin or Cream... Heavy Metal was not even coined as a term until 1971, and it was used to describe Humble Pie. Coined by Mike Saunders, who would front a punk band called Angry Samoans. Sabbath may have given Metal an identity and made the fixed the blue print, but to say they invented it.. is debatable. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey. Last edited by BastardofYoung; 09-19-2011 at 01:29 AM.

09-19-2011, 01:26 AM	#54 (permalink)
Syrith Groupie Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 39	No, it really isn't. Compare Black Sabbath (the song) to that cover and you tell me which one sounds like metal. Last edited by Syrith; 09-19-2011 at 01:36 AM.

09-19-2011, 01:32 AM	#55 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	studio version: Sabbath gave Heavy Metal an image, but the sound was already established and being shaped before they came along. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

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Syrith Groupie Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 39	...

09-19-2011, 01:51 AM	#57 (permalink)
Syrith Groupie Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 39	Hell you already said it yourself. Black Sabbath made the identity, the blueprint. No metal band has ever modeled themselves after ****in Blue Cheer.