Best Metal Album of All Time?

jackhammer · 07-15-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Roots is a **** album. It's filled with redundant, ineffective riffs, idiotic breakdowns, lyrics that are cringe worthy..... the "ethnic elements" are so cheesy, so poorly executed, it's like a giant spoiler on the back of a white Civic with a black hood.

They went downhill, and quickly, after "Arise".

I think they went downhill after Beneath The Remains. They seemed to cater for a mass audience after that album and lost their identity.

BastardofYoung · 07-15-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I think they went downhill after Beneath The Remains. They seemed to cater for a mass audience after that album and lost their identity.

I love Arise as much as I love BTR. Both albums are great in their own way. Still the best 2 Sepultura albums. I like "Chaos A.D.", I like some of the tribal elements. Had a lift in production, songwriting and some interesting tribal moments. I think that was the last album I really liked. I am in the camp too that thinks "Roots" is overrated. It was like Chaos, but with almost none of the Thrash influences that could still be found on Chaos. Bores me fast, run time is too long, and many of the tracks are just skippable to me.

Arise is still a worthy follow up to BTR though.

almauro · 07-15-2012, 08:01 PM

^ I agree with most of what you say, but I got a little more love for Roots than you. They did slow down and simply, but they also down-tuned and got heavier/groovier which was cool with me. The one and a half tracks of ambiance is definitely skip-able, though.

Why not this for the best metal album of all time?

**Janszoon** · 07-15-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by almauro

^ I agree with most of what you say, but I got a little more love for Roots than you. They did slow down and simply, but they also down-tuned and got heavier/groovier which was cool with me. The one and a half tracks of ambiance is definitely skip-able, though.

Yeah, that I agree with. But aside from that Roots is great. As with Chaos A.D. it's the percussion and the groove of the songs that make it great.

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Originally Posted by almauro

Why not this for the best metal album of all time?

I only have In Battle There Is No Law! and The IVth Crusade, but I like both quite a bit. I may have to check that one out.

hip hop bunny hop · 07-15-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zappas Utopia

I just lol with all the sub genre crap. I mean, in the end, it's only rock n' roll. Hell, look what happened to progressive rock. There are so many of these sub genre's broke off from this, it's insane. Metal is absolutely a sub genre of progressive rock. I was there

But the below is metal.. & it's not prog.

Musicfanatic · 07-15-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

Sepultura's Roots Bloody Roots

Aw, okay. I've never heard Sepultura before. Heard of them, just never heard 'em. I have to agree, though, that now that I've listened a little they definitely are/sound like groove metal. I've read somewhere, on this forum probably, that Pantera are groove metal. I'd have to say that that Roots album, so far, is a lot more groovy, for lackthereof a better, less kindly word, than Pantera. But I am never good at labeling things. I used to classify AC/DC as metal. Have a friend who still does.

almauro · 07-16-2012, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I only have In Battle There Is No Law! and The IVth Crusade, but I like both quite a bit. I may have to check that one out.

Bolt Thrower gets unfairly maligned for recording the same album over and over, but those two records prove detractors, wrong. IBTINL is a grindcore album, "Crusade" is doomy death metal. 'Realm of Chaos" followed IBTINL, and retains a lot of it's chaotic blasts, while also moving into death metal and better production.

Rjinn · 07-16-2012, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zappas Utopia

Metal is absolutely a sub genre of progressive rock. I was there

What.

Eh I guess I'll go with Cowboys From Hell.

Though Vulgar Display of Power comes real close.

BastardofYoung · 07-16-2012, 05:16 AM

"The IVth Crusade" is my favorite album by them, followed by "War Master". They are great at that slow paced Death Metal. Them and Cianide are 2 of my favorites in that department.

Blarobbarg · 07-16-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zappas Utopia

I just lol with all the sub genre crap. I mean, in the end, it's only rock n' roll. Hell, look what happened to progressive rock. There are so many of these sub genre's broke off from this, it's insane. Metal is absolutely a sub genre of progressive rock. I was there

I know this has already been said, but seriously, I have to say something.

What?

What?!

This is literally the most insane thing I have read in a long while. I'm sorry, but this is just crazy. Just... ugh.

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	"The IVth Crusade" is my favorite album by them, followed by "War Master". They are great at that slow paced Death Metal. Them and Cianide are 2 of my favorites in that department. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.