The Future of Rock

EvilChuck · 09-04-2011, 01:56 PM

Rock is dead, and if not will be dead soon. Why? Because its too pompous now, too try hard, too 'intellectual'. Rock has lost touch of what it was about, it was a bad ass genre, played by dirty people for dirty fans. Now too many fans, artists, critics want to intellectualise the music, see who can play the most complex, technical music and the soul has been lost.

I short, fúck you hipsters!

TockTockTock · 09-04-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilChuck

Rock is dead, and if not will be dead soon. Why? Because its too pompous now, too try hard, too 'intellectual'. Rock has lost touch of what it was about, it was a bad ass genre, played by dirty people for dirty fans. Now too many fans, artists, critics want to intellectualise the music, see who can play the most complex, technical music and the soul has been lost.

I short, fúck you hipsters!

If this was the case, then it died in the early to mid-70s with the emergence of progressive rock. There's absolutely nothing wrong with intellectualizing rock music and giving it meaning and substance. One of rock's most defining and important qualities is its eclecticism... It can be both dirty and raw as well as complex and intellectual.

EvilChuck · 09-04-2011, 02:24 PM

But its not giving it meaning and substance, its doing the opposite! Its all style and no substance, complexity for the sake of it with no real context within the song. How do you relate to bands that dont really say anything, but just say it in the most flashy way possible?

TockTockTock · 09-04-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilChuck

But its not giving it meaning and substance, its doing the opposite! Its all style and no substance, complexity for the sake of it with no real context within the song. How do you relate to bands that dont really say anything, but just say it in the most flashy way possible?

So... you think that every band that puts effort into creating complex rock music lacks substance and meaning? You do realize that you are making one hell of a generalization, right?

EvilChuck · 09-04-2011, 02:56 PM

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So... you think that every band that puts effort into creating complex rock music lacks substance and meaning? You do realize that you are making one hell of a generalization, right?

Not every, no. But the majority, yes. Context is crucial in music, wankery just for the sake of it isnt good, it never has been and never will be. Music should take you on a journey, I want to sit back and feel the music, not have to listen with the intention of getting into a debate. It is only made worse by a large number of music fans as well, who in the hunt for the most obscure music have stopped feeling the music, and just consume as much music as possible without ever really stopping to take it in, just so that they can stay one step ahead of the rest of the world!

And maybe it is a generalisation, or maybe it is a bang on analysis of the problems in rock music these days

Unknown Soldier · 09-04-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilChuck

But its not giving it meaning and substance, its doing the opposite! Its all style and no substance, complexity for the sake of it with no real context within the song. How do you relate to bands that dont really say anything, but just say it in the most flashy way possible?

The same quality, substance and complexity with meaning is still there today, the only difference is that you have to dig much deeper today to find it. Thanks to internet and if you know what you`re looking for you can find it. Complex music with real substance was at its commercial height in the early 1970s with genres such as krautrock and prog rock but by the end of the decade it had died as a commercial music genre. Since then complexity has taken more of a back seat as far as the music public goes, but the quality bands are still there, as said you just have to look for them.

TockTockTock · 09-04-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilChuck

And maybe it is a generalisation, or maybe it is a bang on analysis of the problems in rock music these days

I'm more inclined to go with the former...

IWP · 09-04-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

i think rock will die and be replaced by hip-hop

serious

Either that, or dance music is just gonna completely take over, and kick both rock and hip hop's asses.

**Janszoon** · 09-04-2011, 05:59 PM

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Either that, or dance music is just gonna completely take over, and kick both rock and hip hop's asses.

You say that as if rock and hip hop aren't types of dance music.

IWP · 09-04-2011, 06:03 PM

I'm talking about more like what most people call "techno", aka house, synthpop, electropopish stuff is what is gonna be the new thing this decade, that and dubstep.

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