Metal Connoisseur

Yeah I'm not as chubby on Converge as most, don't get me wrong, they're alright but I don't think they're god's gift to hardcore metal. If not from hardcore, where does grindcore (in its purest form--not deathgrind, pornogrind, etc.) draw it's influence from?

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The liner notes in Horrified state that Repulsion's influences were, most regularly, Celtic Frost, Slayer, & Discharge.

Early Napalm Death is a bit more difficult to nail down, what with the constantly shifting members, but in an interview I read with (then quite, quite young) Justin Broadrick he mentioned Throbbing Gristle as an influence, which isn't too surprising considering where that led. However, this shouldn't be discounted as an aberration, considering that Mick Harris also seems to have had similar interests and influences.

There's also a bit of death metal influence in the early bands that became more evident as time went on, and it's a bit hard to delineate considering the confluence of Repulsion/Death (which were the same band at one point), as well as that of Terrorizer/Morbid Angel, Terrorizer/Napalm Death, etc.

So, yeah, there's a hardcore influence, but it's hardcore sans scary quotes. It's the hardcore of Negative Approach, Discharge, etc.. Not the "hardcore" of Converge, Fall of Troy, and that kind.

Really, what mystifies me is why what appears to be two very distinct genres are both labelled hardcore.

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The Batlord

Cause calling it metalcore isn't cool anymore?

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