Metal Wars!!!!!!!!!!!

The Batlord · 10-20-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Metal Connoisseur

C'mon people, let's be a little more open minded here. I recognize that Machine Head has the stigma of dabbling in nu-metal and having a few poor records but the impact of The Blackening on modern metal is undeniable. Look at any metal website and/or forum and people are still talking about it. I took a step outside of my comfort zone and listened through all the swedish death metal records from battles past and found that I really enjoyed them, so I encourage the rest of the participants to do the same.

I can understand the hate. Like I've said, I have no respect for Machine Head or Robb Flynn. He's a genre chaser who plays to whatever audience happens to be in vogue at the moment. From his days in Forbidden (good, but very generic thrash) and Vio-Lence (amazing, but very generic thrash) he has been on the band wagon, and Machine Head's entire career has followed the same trend. The last three albums are no exception. They sound tailor made to appeal to people who listen to Killswitch Engage and Lamb of God.

That being said, I still love their music. They're just too good to deny myself just because of some misguided notion of elitism. But I don't blame others for finding them to be ****.

Unknown Soldier · 10-20-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I can understand the hate. Like I've said, I have no respect for Machine Head or Robb Flynn. He's a genre chaser who plays to whatever audience happens to be in vogue at the moment. From his days in Forbidden (good, but very generic thrash) and Vio-Lence (amazing, but very generic thrash) he has been on the band wagon, and Machine Head's entire career has followed the same trend. The last three albums are no exception. They sound tailor made to appeal to people who listen to Killswitch Engage and Lamb of God.

That being said, I still love their music. They're just too good to deny myself just because of some misguided notion of elitism. But I don't blame others for finding them to be ****.

If they hadn`t put out a nu-metal sound on their third and fourth albums, I doubt they would`ve got accused of being a what`s in vogue chasing metal band.

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and i think u all just stupid.

Thanks for your insight.

Now fuck off

The Batlord · 10-20-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cink09

and i think u all just stupid.

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And I think you are all just stupid.

You know, when calling other people stupid, you should probably use correct grammar and capitalization. It keeps my irony meter from blowing up.

The Batlord · 10-20-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

If they hadn`t put out a nu-metal sound on their third and fourth albums, I doubt they would`ve got accused of being a what`s in vogue chasing metal band.

Perhaps not as much, but Burn My Eyes was obvious Pantera worship, then we have the nu-metal days, now their whole new direction just screams scene band. I mean, come on, Now I Lay Thee Down? If that song wasn't so good, it'd make me want to vomit. When haven't they been scene chasers?

Unknown Soldier · 10-20-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Perhaps not as much, but Burn My Eyes was obvious Pantera worship, then we have the nu-metal days, now their whole new direction just screams scene band. I mean, come on, Now I Lay Thee Down? If that song wasn't so good, it'd make me want to vomit. When haven't they been scene chasers?

When a group copies another band but does it so well, they stop being simple scene chasers as they`ve basically become as good as the bands they were copying or were heavily inspired by and I`ve always felt Machine Head fell into this category.

Burn My Eyes-Pantera
The Blackening- Metallica MOP and AJFA era

The above are two obvious copying/reference points and I`d say Machine Head are as good as both these bands.

The Batlord · 10-20-2011, 11:52 AM

I'd say that Machine Head's copying is much more cynical though. They're going for the $$. They just have enough brains and talent that they can get away with it without sounding like a million other scene chasers that have no sense of identity.

Unknown Soldier · 10-20-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'd say that Machine Head's copying is much more cynical though. They're going for the $$. They just have enough brains and talent that they can get away with it without sounding like a million other scene chasers that have no sense of identity.

I`d agree with all that.

BastardofYoung · 10-20-2011, 01:15 PM

Batlord, change the typo in your status, lol.

Scalrett. haha.

The Batlord · 10-21-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

Batlord, change the typo in your status, lol.

Scalrett. haha.

Done.

LOLPOCALYPSE · 10-21-2011, 01:35 PM

After listening to Unto the Locust I actually will give it my vote. It is more groovy than The Blackening and I enjoy the vocals much better. Some parts even remind me a bit of Lamb of God. I also think the songs are more distinctive from one another.

Unto the Locust 1
The Blackening 4
Burn My Eyes 0

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LOLPOCALYPSE Aryan Wonder Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 445	After listening to Unto the Locust I actually will give it my vote. It is more groovy than The Blackening and I enjoy the vocals much better. Some parts even remind me a bit of Lamb of God. I also think the songs are more distinctive from one another. Unto the Locust 1 The Blackening 4 Burn My Eyes 0