Metal Wars!!!!!!!!!!!

BastardofYoung · 09-22-2011, 04:55 PM

yeah, i like to think that when most people disregard Death Metal they are only basing it on the sound of one or two bands they are familiar with. But there is greatness in it, like any other style.

Metal Connoisseur · 09-22-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

yeah, i like to think that when most people disregard Death Metal they are only basing it on the sound of one or two bands they are familiar with. But there is greatness in it, like any other style.

Yes, and it doesn't help that the Hot Topic scenesters identify with Cannibal Corpse and Six Feet Under...I'll be honest and say that was one large deterrent for me

BastardofYoung · 09-22-2011, 05:17 PM

I like Cannibal Corpse. But they still do not rank amongst my favorites by any means (though my last.fm probably says differently, as they are my most played DM band.. but that is just cause I have been listening to them to catch up). They have some great moments, but they are not the only DM band in the world like some seem to like to think.

Can't deny their influence, but once you dive deeper into the style you realise what they influenced has been done better over the years.

But when it comes to a lot of Death Metal, especially the Brutal Death Metal scene that they helped shape.. you will notice that there are many bands who still just rip them off. Seems like the majority of BRutal DM bands now are either trying to be Cannibal Corpse or Suffocation.

Unknown Soldier · 09-23-2011, 04:31 AM

Ok Dismember win that 5-0. Next up courtesy of Metal Connoisseur are these two albums from European extreme metal acts. Celtic Frost who need no introduction and Blut Aus Nord from France. Again take a few words explaining your choice.

Blut Aus Nord The Work Which Transforms God 2003

Versus

Celtic Frost Monotheist 2006

The Batlord · 09-23-2011, 09:38 AM

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I like Cannibal Corpse. But they still do not rank amongst my favorites by any means.

Me too. While they have moments of brilliance, I think they're most useful as a gateway band to death metal. I mean just about everyone knows them. Even people who don't listen to metal at all have usually at least heard of them, they're probably the first DM band most people hear, and they have a sound that pretty much encapsulates death metal in a nutshell, so they're sort of like the death metal ambassadors. You know, maybe we should send the Corpsegrinder to negotiate an Israeli/Palestinian peace treaty.

The Batlord · 09-23-2011, 09:42 AM

Dude, I love this battle. Monotheist is quite possibly Celtic Frost's best album (which is amazing as it's a reunion album) and The Work Which Transforms God has pretty much single handedly revived my interest in black metal. I will have to give Monotheist another listen. I think this will be a hard choice.

Unknown Soldier · 09-23-2011, 12:03 PM

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Dude, I love this battle. Monotheist is quite possibly Celtic Frost's best album (which is amazing as it's a reunion album) and The Work Which Transforms God has pretty much single handedly revived my interest in black metal. I will have to give Monotheist another listen. I think this will be a hard choice.

I agree about Monotheist its one muuuther of an album and possibly one of the best ever metal releases of the 00`s, I mean their mixture of gothic and doom influences are amazing mixed in with an eastern influenced sound at times (Tiamat were doing similiar stuff at that time as well) And the heaviness of the album, contrasting with the female sung parts is perfect as well.

Is this the best Celtic Frost album? Well its a toss up between this and the Morbid Tales album but as you said, this is a reunion album and reunion albums shouldn`t be this great

Can`t vote yet as I know jack shit about the other album

LoathsomePete · 09-23-2011, 12:36 PM

Crap... this is a hard one. I follow the very unpopular opinion that Monotheist (2006) is the best Celtic Frost album but The Work Which Transforms God (2003) is also one of the best black metal releases of the last decade.... You know I'll have to come back to this one, cause it's fucking hard. It's like having to decide which of your two children lives, and they're both beautiful.

BastardofYoung · 09-23-2011, 02:10 PM

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I agree about Monotheist its one muuuther of an album and possibly one of the best ever metal releases of the 00`s, I mean their mixture of gothic and doom influences are amazing mixed in with an eastern influenced sound at times (Tiamat were doing similiar stuff at that time as well) And the heaviness of the album, contrasting with the female sung parts is perfect as well.

Is this the best Celtic Frost album? Well its a toss up between this and the Morbid Tales album but as you said, this is a reunion album and reunion albums shouldn`t be this great

Can`t vote yet as I know jack shit about the other album

please, we all know "Cold Lake" was Celtic Frost's best album.

Unknown Soldier · 09-23-2011, 03:24 PM

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please, we all know "Cold Lake" was Celtic Frost's best album.

I always knew you were a secret Motley Crue fan.

09-22-2011, 04:55 PM	#391 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	yeah, i like to think that when most people disregard Death Metal they are only basing it on the sound of one or two bands they are familiar with. But there is greatness in it, like any other style. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	I like Cannibal Corpse. But they still do not rank amongst my favorites by any means (though my last.fm probably says differently, as they are my most played DM band.. but that is just cause I have been listening to them to catch up). They have some great moments, but they are not the only DM band in the world like some seem to like to think. Can't deny their influence, but once you dive deeper into the style you realise what they influenced has been done better over the years. But when it comes to a lot of Death Metal, especially the Brutal Death Metal scene that they helped shape.. you will notice that there are many bands who still just rip them off. Seems like the majority of BRutal DM bands now are either trying to be Cannibal Corpse or Suffocation. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

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LoathsomePete Cardboard Box Realtor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobb's End Posts: 7,648	Crap... this is a hard one. I follow the very unpopular opinion that Monotheist (2006) is the best Celtic Frost album but The Work Which Transforms God (2003) is also one of the best black metal releases of the last decade.... You know I'll have to come back to this one, cause it's fucking hard. It's like having to decide which of your two children lives, and they're both beautiful. __________________ Last.FM 101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

09-23-2011, 04:31 AM	#394 (permalink)
Unknown Soldier Horribly Creative Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London, The Big Smoke Posts: 8,265	Ok Dismember win that 5-0. Next up courtesy of Metal Connoisseur are these two albums from European extreme metal acts. Celtic Frost who need no introduction and Blut Aus Nord from France. Again take a few words explaining your choice. Blut Aus Nord The Work Which Transforms God 2003 Versus Celtic Frost Monotheist 2006