New Wave of British Heavy Metal

The Batlord · 10-14-2011, 02:07 PM

Wyrd · 10-14-2011, 02:12 PM

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Unknown Soldier · 10-14-2011, 02:27 PM

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Oh yea woops. Forgot about that.

Saxon's Debut was pretty good.

By US standards Denmark is pretty close to Great Britain, the Vikings never had far to travel

Mercyful Fate were really a style unto themselves especially with the vocals of King Diamond. The only album of theirs that I like is Breaking the Oath. I`m one of those people who can only stand King Diamond`s vocals for a very short period of time anyway. Mercyful Fate though, were an important band as they kind of bridged the gap between the NWOBHM and the future extreme metal genres.

The Batlord · 10-14-2011, 02:31 PM

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Unknown Soldier · 10-15-2011, 09:10 AM

Next up from one of the best bands of the NWOBHM.

Tank Filth Hounds of Hades 1982

Zoltan Hound of Dracula eat yer heart out!

From the start Tank were compared to Motorhead and without doubt the similiarities were there. Both bands were three-piece outfits with a vocalist/bass player and Tank`s debut album Filth Hounds of Hades was also produced by "Fast" Eddie Clarke of Motorhead. But when listening to Tank, vocalist Algy Ward was far more melodic than Lemmy ever could be, but was still able to retain a credible rawness in his voice so essential to the NWOBHM. Filth Hounds of Hades is the bands most representative album and their second album was also released in 1982 Power of the Hunter, which was a departure in style from the debut, with the band putting out a more polished album with better production values. Both albums though are great listens and essential listens within the genre.

Unknown Soldier · 10-16-2011, 05:59 AM

1982 was a great year for NWOBHM.

Witchfinder General Death Penalty 1982

Like Diamond Head, Witchfinder General hailed from Stourbridge but that`s where the similiarities ended, as Witchfinder General focused far more on the slower meanderings of metal Black Sabbath style and along with American bands Saint Vitus and Pentagram were early purveyors of the doom metal sound. Vocalist Zeeb Parkes was heavily influenced by Ozzy, with the rest of the band taking their influences directly from Sabbath as well, but the group had a enough talent and ability to create their own sound and not come across as a Sabbath copycat band. Despite only lasting for two albums (despite having a reunion album many years later) their influence on future doom metal acts such as Cathedral and Electric Wizard is highly noticeable. Also the band put out better quality album covers than many of their counterparts, with the focus strongly being on the debauchery of the film "Witchfinder General" where the group took their name from.

jackhammer · 10-16-2011, 06:54 PM

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Next up from one of the best bands of the NWOBHM.

Tank Filth Hounds of Hades 1982

Zoltan Hound of Dracula eat yer heart out!

From the start Tank were compared to Motorhead and without doubt the similiarities were there. Both bands were three-piece outfits with a vocalist/bass player and Tank`s debut album Filth Hounds of Hades was also produced by "Fast" Eddie Clarke of Motorhead. But when listening to Tank, vocalist Algy Ward was far more melodic than Lemmy ever could be, but was still able to retain a credible rawness in his voice so essential to the NWOBHM. Filth Hounds of Hades is the bands most representative album and their second album was also released in 1982 Power of the Hunter, which was a departure in style from the debut, with the band putting out a more polished album with better production values. Both albums though are great listens and essential listens within the genre.

Tank were a fantastic band. Great production and vocals. This Means War and Honour & Blood were fantastic returns to form after the disappointing Power Of The Hunter and are two of my favourite Metal albums of all time especially this masterpiece from This Means War:

If anyone asks me to sum up the NWOBHM in one track I would choose this everytime. First heard in 1988 and I still love the fecker over 20 years later.

SATCHMO · 10-16-2011, 07:07 PM

Okay, Just out of curiosity, because I was never too clear about it, are the two sole criteria for NWBHM those of time and origin, i.e. early to mid 80's Great Britain, or are there style criteria as well? Basically I'm asking if all metal that came out of England during the eighties considered NWBHM. I know this sounds like an anal question, but I've always wondered.

jackhammer · 10-16-2011, 07:23 PM

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Okay, Just out of curiosity, because I was never too clear about it, are the two sole criteria for NWBHM those of time and origin, i.e. early to mid 80's Great Britain, or are there style criteria as well? Basically I'm asking if all metal that came out of England during the eighties considered NWBHM. I know this sounds like an anal question, but I've always wondered.

The time and origin are a big part of it but that is mainly because of the influence of Punk in that Metal generally got harder and faster from 79 onwards so that awarded itself the tag of NWOBHM in that the new bands at the time stepped away from Blues based music and became more streamlined and economical. Not always of course as bands like Angel Witch incorporated much more melody and breakdowns than their counterparts but on a general scale Metal in the U.K became more lean and less bloated.

Thrash Metal definitely took many influences from Punk and the emerging Hardcore scene but it also too influences from NWOBHM and without those sounds the Metal scene would look completely different and that is why NWOBHM is still heralded as one of the most important scenes in metal.

Just as the Punk scene gained a few bands that weren't strictly Punk at the time and just happened to be playing at the time and so got lumped in with the genre the same happened with Metal at this time but the ethos was the same. Play harder, dirtier and faster (when appropriate).

The best band to demonstrate this was Venom. They were amateurish, out of tune and lacked a cohesive sound but the attitude and raw sound is the perfect stop gap between these genres.

SATCHMO · 10-16-2011, 07:30 PM

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The time and origin are a big part of it but that is mainly because of the influence of Punk in that Metal generally got harder and faster from 79 onwards so that awarded itself the tag of NWOBHM in that the new bands at the time stepped away from Blues based music and became more streamlined and economical. Not always of course as bands like Angel Witch incorporated much more melody and breakdowns than their counterparts but on a general scale Metal in the U.K became more lean and less bloated.

Thrash Metal definitely took many influences from Punk and the emerging Hardcore scene but it also too influences from NWOBHM and without those sounds the Metal scene would look completely different and that is why NWOBHM is still heralded as one of the most important scenes in metal.

Just as the Punk scene gained a few bands that weren't strictly Punk at the time and just happened to be playing at the time and so got lumped in with the genre the same happened with Metal at this time but the ethos was the same. Play harder, dirtier and faster (when appropriate).

The best band to demonstrate this was Venom. They were amateurish, out of tune and lacked a cohesive sound but the attitude and raw sound is the perfect stop gap between these genres.

So it's safe to say that there are a few 80's British metal band that wouldn't fall into the sub-genre?

10-15-2011, 09:10 AM	#75 (permalink)
Unknown Soldier Horribly Creative Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London, The Big Smoke Posts: 8,265	Next up from one of the best bands of the NWOBHM. Tank Filth Hounds of Hades 1982 Zoltan Hound of Dracula eat yer heart out! From the start Tank were compared to Motorhead and without doubt the similiarities were there. Both bands were three-piece outfits with a vocalist/bass player and Tank`s debut album Filth Hounds of Hades was also produced by "Fast" Eddie Clarke of Motorhead. But when listening to Tank, vocalist Algy Ward was far more melodic than Lemmy ever could be, but was still able to retain a credible rawness in his voice so essential to the NWOBHM. Filth Hounds of Hades is the bands most representative album and their second album was also released in 1982 Power of the Hunter, which was a departure in style from the debut, with the band putting out a more polished album with better production values. Both albums though are great listens and essential listens within the genre.

10-16-2011, 05:59 AM	#76 (permalink)
Unknown Soldier Horribly Creative Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London, The Big Smoke Posts: 8,265	1982 was a great year for NWOBHM. Witchfinder General Death Penalty 1982 Like Diamond Head, Witchfinder General hailed from Stourbridge but that`s where the similiarities ended, as Witchfinder General focused far more on the slower meanderings of metal Black Sabbath style and along with American bands Saint Vitus and Pentagram were early purveyors of the doom metal sound. Vocalist Zeeb Parkes was heavily influenced by Ozzy, with the rest of the band taking their influences directly from Sabbath as well, but the group had a enough talent and ability to create their own sound and not come across as a Sabbath copycat band. Despite only lasting for two albums (despite having a reunion album many years later) their influence on future doom metal acts such as Cathedral and Electric Wizard is highly noticeable. Also the band put out better quality album covers than many of their counterparts, with the focus strongly being on the debauchery of the film "Witchfinder General" where the group took their name from.

10-16-2011, 07:07 PM	#78 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Okay, Just out of curiosity, because I was never too clear about it, are the two sole criteria for NWBHM those of time and origin, i.e. early to mid 80's Great Britain, or are there style criteria as well? Basically I'm asking if all metal that came out of England during the eighties considered NWBHM. I know this sounds like an anal question, but I've always wondered.