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metalheadmike 04-13-2012 04:35 PM

This thread is awesome. I own most of the albums listed here. Glad someone is keeping the spirit of NWOBHM alive

Unknown Soldier 04-13-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by metalheadmike (Post 1177644)
This thread is awesome. I own most of the albums listed here. Glad someone is keeping the spirit of NWOBHM alive

Thanks, You must be as old as me;)

metalheadmike 04-13-2012 04:49 PM

Actually discovered most of these bands through my late uncle. Who had all these Lp's and 45's of obscure music dating back to this style and old blues. Really influenced me as teenager in late 80's

The Batlord 04-14-2012 08:18 AM

I have a somewhat similar uncle, but the most obscure **** he had was Triumph. Other than that it was just a bunch of Maiden, Priest, and Queensryche. Still, pretty epic though.

Unknown Soldier 04-15-2012 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1177910)
I have a somewhat similar uncle, but the most obscure **** he had was Triumph. Other than that it was just a bunch of Maiden, Priest, and Queensryche. Still, pretty epic though.

Triumph hell yer!!!

Howard the Duck 04-15-2012 07:51 AM

i got into NWOBHM mostly through Sounds - English music press

and that's only retrospectively - NME were dissing them in the 80s for championing it, so I went and bought some old issues to see what the fuss was all about

i enjoyed what i heard from that scene that time (which was rather limited as they didn't bring many of them releases into these parts)

Unknown Soldier 04-15-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1178222)
i got into NWOBHM mostly through Sounds - English music press

and that's only retrospectively - NME were dissing them in the 80s for championing it, so I went and bought some old issues to see what the fuss was all about

i enjoyed what i heard from that scene that time (which was rather limited as they didn't bring many of them releases into these parts)

When I first got into music Sounds, NME and Melody maker were the three weekly music rags that used to come out every Friday. Sounds I thought was easily the best as it used to say good stuff about the bands I was into.

Howard the Duck 04-15-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1178227)
When I first got into music Sounds, NME and Melody maker were the three weekly music rags that used to come out every Friday. Sounds I thought was easily the best as it used to say good stuff about the bands I was into.

I read NME the most, cos it was the most regular here

the other two had sporadic distribution here

Unknown Soldier 04-15-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1178230)
I read NME the most, cos it was the most regular here

the other two had sporadic distribution here

The other two fell by the wayside here and NME bacame the dominant one.

Unknown Soldier 05-01-2012 11:02 AM

I've just discovered this band, they were on my list and from the name thought they were just some type of proto-extreme metal band BUT NO this is a hidden gem of the NWOBHM, can't believe I'd never heard of these guys before. I then read that they were very similiar to Diamond Head and in terms of quality their first album is almost as good as the Diamond Head and Iron Maiden debuts...........I kid you not.


Diamond Head would've been proud of this song.

Holocaust Death Or Glory - YouTube

These guys know how to do Sabbath as well.

Holocaust Mavrock - YouTube

The Batlord 05-01-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1184406)
Diamond Head would've been proud of this song.

Holocaust Death Or Glory - YouTube

That song is pretty epic. The vocals aren't too great, but they're buried in the mix anyway, so it doesn't really matter, since the main riff's immense awesomeness is right in your face and impossible to ignore.

Unknown Soldier 05-01-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1184417)
That song is pretty epic. The vocals aren't too great, but they're buried in the mix anyway, so it doesn't really matter, since the main riff's immense awesomeness is right in your face and impossible to ignore.

I've also read Metallica were into these guys, which given their love for Diamond Head is no surprise really. Metallica covered a Holocaust song on their Garage Days Re-Revisted EP.

hip hop bunny hop 05-01-2012 03:11 PM

Holocaust are solid; they're referenced directly in the song "Heavy Metal Hunter pt.1" by Metalucifer.

Off of the Nightcomers, my favorite track is "Heavy Metal Mania":



The opening melody is pretty epic.... anyways, this song was covered by that godawful band Gamma Ray, and they - as one would expect - ****ed it up.

Unknown Soldier 05-01-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1184522)
Holocaust are solid; they're referenced directly in the song "Heavy Metal Hunter pt.1" by Metalucifer.

Off of the Nightcomers, my favorite track is "Heavy Metal Mania":



The opening melody is pretty epic.... anyways, this song was covered by that godawful band Gamma Ray, and they - as one would expect - ****ed it up.

That's also a great track, Gamma Ray are actually a very good band but I know you don't like power metal so that would explain that. I can't speak of the Gamma Ray cover as I don't recall it.

Howard the Duck 05-18-2012 06:22 PM

i just bought Saxon : The Carrerre Years

has their first 7 albums

pretty mixed batch - some are outstanding, some are mediocre, some just plain bad

Unknown Soldier 05-19-2012 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1190476)
i just bought Saxon : The Carrerre Years

has their first 7 albums

pretty mixed batch - some are outstanding, some are mediocre, some just plain bad

The Saxon legend is built around the three albums they released in just a two year period Wheels of Steel, Strong Arm of the Law and Denim and Leather. The rest are really take 'em or leave 'em.

Howard the Duck 05-19-2012 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1190554)
The Saxon legend is built around the three albums they released in just a two year period Wheels of Steel, Strong Arm of the Law and Denim and Leather. The rest are really take 'em or leave 'em.

yes, those are good, if a little Judas Priest-y

warrior of metal 05-19-2012 12:37 PM

I'd recomend Motorhead :dj:

Trollheart 05-19-2012 01:16 PM

US told me about this thread but I've only just now got to start reading it.
As he knows, but for those who don't, I've been running an in-depth review of the NWOBHM, concentrating on both the prime movers (with the exception of Maiden) and the "little guys".

Part one, which is here http://www.musicbanter.com/members-j...ml#post1107941 deals with Praying Mantis, Angel Witch and Trespass, while part two, here http://www.musicbanter.com/members-j...ml#post1132041 features Raven, Cloven Hoof and Venom.

Part three will follow soon(ish) and will look at Tank, Wolf and Saxon.

Trollheart 05-19-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1178232)
The other two fell by the wayside here and NME bacame the dominant one.

The only music mag I ever read (or needed) was Kerrang! Learned everything I needed to know about heavy metal there. Thanks guys!

Trollheart 05-19-2012 01:41 PM

Sorry for so many posts in such a short time, but as I read through I find more and more to flap my jaw about!

I think the problem Demon had was similar to what they said in the Simpsons: Too crazy for Boystown, too much of a boy for Crazytown!

Their name obviously piqued the interest of the crowd who followed the likes of Venom, Mercyful Fate and other "black metal" bands, and when they found out this band was "'ere, a bit melodic, huh?" they lost interest. On the other side of the coin, those who didn't like the Venom-led clutch of bands with Satanist connections steered clear of them. So sadly it was a real lose/lose scenario for them, and as you say, yes, they were definitely more "mainstream" metal than black.

My brother got the album "The uninvited guest" and said it was great, but at the time I couldn't get past the name and wouldn't listen. Later, I did, but by then my tastes had more or less moved on.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1170604)
Despite their occultish name and gory album cover, the Demon debut had more in common with the more melodic heavy acts of the 1970s such as UFO and the melodic guitar riffs of Thin Lizzy, than they did with the style of Black Sabbath. The band hailed from Staffordshire, its seems like a huge percentage of NWOBHM acts originated from either the West Midlands or North East regions of the UK! The band's lack of eventual success, could be pointed down to the fact, that they were probably about several years too late sound-wise as their style of sound was more indebted to 70's hard rock acts than to the then emerging fellow acts of the NWOBHM.



Trollheart 05-19-2012 01:46 PM

Yeah, me again!

These two albums were my biggest and most influential introduction to many bands of the NWOBHM era that I didn't already know of, including Trespass, White Spirit, Dark Star, Fist and Xero, with an early track from Diamond Head on the latter.

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/im...3EGXr1L_mgXjV4

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/im...PDSMMf0v93cG6N

Trollheart 05-19-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1121621)
. Girlschool had five dedicated handbangers who just happened to be women

Heh! They could bang my hand anytime! :D

Unknown Soldier 05-20-2012 03:13 PM

Based on what I know of your metal tastes, Demon would be right up your street, they had far more in common with bands like Thin Lizzy and UFO than they ever did with Sabbath or Priest. BTW its great to see that you have finally left the shelter of your journal and ventured out into the rest of the forum, your musical knowledge will greatly be appreciated on the rest of the forum.:D

Dr_Rez 05-21-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1089493)
White Spirit's one & only album better be on here then.

Whats amazing is they were featured on like 15 different compilation albums.

Unknown Soldier 09-18-2012 03:45 PM

Great collection of NWOBHM riffs, found it on YouTube.


top NWOBHM riffs - YouTube

Musicfanatic 09-25-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1093852)
i just got those Venom and Raven albums

they seriously rawk

Just looked up the Raven one on Amazon - cheapest is like $38???

Regarding this New Wave of British Heavy Metal...can someone tell me if there was an older, or oldish, wave of British Heavy Metal?

Howard the Duck 09-25-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1190694)
Heh! They could bang my hand anytime! :D

or bang me with their hands

Unknown Soldier 09-26-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Musicfanatic (Post 1234932)
Just looked up the Raven one on Amazon - cheapest is like $38???

Regarding this New Wave of British Heavy Metal...can someone tell me if there was an older, or oldish, wave of British Heavy Metal?

An older wave would be the generation of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Free, UFO and Black Sabbath etc, but these bands evolved over a period of time, as opposed to the NWOBHM which firmly established itself and identity in just a couple of years. Also most of those older bands were more hard rock than metal anyway.

In fact my journal is currently focusing on this time period of the early 1970s at the moment. Just click the link at the bottom of this post "Pounding Decibels"

The Batlord 09-26-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1235064)
In fact my journal is currently focusing on this time period of the early 1970s at the moment. Just click the link at the bottom of this post "Pounding Decibels"

Don't listen to him! It's just porn! Hardcore bestiality porn!

Unknown Soldier 09-26-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1235117)
Don't listen to him! It's just porn! Hardcore bestiality porn!

Nice tits by the way.

Musicfanatic 09-26-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1125574)
A long forgotten album.


What happened to the picture?

Unknown Soldier 09-27-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Musicfanatic (Post 1235314)
What happened to the picture?

Now and again pictures disappear, no idea why but it happens.

Howard the Duck 09-27-2012 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1235496)
Now and again pictures disappear, no idea why but it happens.

copyright issues, probably

the Intellectual Property holders request the host to take them down

Unknown Soldier 09-27-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1235502)
copyright issues, probably

the Intellectual Property holders request the host to take them down

It seems like it randomly happens now and again, but isn't this seen as free advertising the artist concerned?

Howard the Duck 09-27-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1235506)
It seems like it randomly happens now and again, but isn't this seen as free advertising the artist concerned?

i guess people might mistake the website as the publisher

Musicfanatic 09-27-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1235064)
An older wave would be the generation of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Free, UFO and Black Sabbath etc, but these bands evolved over a period of time, as opposed to the NWOBHM which firmly established itself and identity in just a couple of years. Also most of those older bands were more hard rock than metal anyway.

In fact my journal is currently focusing on this time period of the early 1970s at the moment. Just click the link at the bottom of this post "Pounding Decibels"

Yeah, after giving it more thought over the last day or so I did think of Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath as probable for that OWOBHM, but thanks for clearing that up.

As for this thread? It's pretty awesome. I never knew that so many "Satanic" leaning bands were part of the catagory. Learned about a lot of stuff here, thank you for the read!

Unknown Soldier 09-28-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicfanatic (Post 1235726)
Yeah, after giving it more thought over the last day or so I did think of Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath as probable for that OWOBHM, but thanks for clearing that up.

As for this thread? It's pretty awesome. I never knew that so many "Satanic" leaning bands were part of the catagory. Learned about a lot of stuff here, thank you for the read!

The satanic aspect is there of course in some bands, but I would say the majority of the bands from the NWOBHM were more influenced by the hard rock style of Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple etc than they were by Black Sabbath. The heavier Satanic influences would come later, when metal got more agressive and sought out a stronger identity in the mid 1980s with bands like Slayer and Celtic Frost. When that happened, Black Sabbath and the satanic aspect gained a much firmer footing on how metal was seen.

Trollheart 09-28-2012 05:07 PM

Yeah, but don't forget Venom. They were a crucial part of the heavier/messier/louder side of the NWOBHM, and certainly gave rise to a lot of the later black metal bands. Hell, they coined the phrase, didn't they? (Why isn't there a devil icon??)

The Batlord 09-29-2012 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1235851)
Yeah, but don't forget Venom. They were a crucial part of the heavier/messier/louder side of the NWOBHM, and certainly gave rise to a lot of the later black metal bands. Hell, they coined the phrase, didn't they? (Why isn't there a devil icon??)

I thought you didn't like Venom?


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