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Old 04-24-2011, 10:34 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Sepultura isn't really indicative of thrash in my opinion. The early stuff sure, but Chaos A.D. had a heavy groove approach followed up by Roots which ventured into the realm of world music.
Sepultura were late on the thrash scene and just re-energized the genre. They were without doubt, one of the best metal bands that ever existed. They played a thrash/groove sound that was unique to them, but they certainly wern`t indicative of thrash.

Three bands are really just indicative of the thrash movement:
Slayer for heaviness and agression, Megadeth for their speed and precision and Metallica for their musical ability and evolution of the genre.

Most of the other thrash metal bands Kreator, Exodus and Testament etc more or less fitted in with what the big 3 were doing.

If you wanted thrash with a real difference, then you had bands like Voivod and Anacrusis, who provided a whole progressive element to the genre and produced a highly original sound.

I`ve yet to hear a modern day thrash band, that matches the quality of any of the groups mentioned above.
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You may just not like Thrash. You may not be used to some of the aesthetics it uses, you may be bringing criteria you used to judge other genres to bear against Thrash. Really, it's quite foolish to dislike a band just because of a singular element of their musicianship.
I agree with you in that I probably just don't like thrash, but I don't think it is foolish to dislike a band because I can't stand the vocals. If I don't like them, I can't just ignore them and still enjoy the song. It would be like eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with mustard in it--A great sandwich otherwise, but the mustard just can't be ignored. Kind of a silly analogy but I'm just trying to make a point. I don't have a problem with Megadeth (except some of the obnoxious fans), but I don't enjoy their music.
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
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LOLPOCALYPSE, I got into thrash after I had got into grindcore and black and death.... however my appreciation of thrash has seemingly increased as I found myself discovering the NWOBHM bands that preceded & influenced thrash and those bands at the twilight of the thrash era that were experimenting a bit more.

My advice would be to look beyond the big 4 when it comes to thrash. There are many great bands that are somewhat thrash (Cryptic Slaughter, for instance) and others that came along at the tail end (Gammacide) that are a bit easier to handle because they didn't limit themselves to the strict confines of Thrash.

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Sepultura isn't really indicative of thrash in my opinion. The early stuff sure, but Chaos A.D. had a heavy groove approach followed up by Roots which ventured into the realm of world music.
So how are they not really indicative of thrash especially when you yourself said their early stuff is?

You basically contradticted yourself with that statement.

Chaos A.D is a THRASH/Groove album.

They are one of the best metal bands that has ever existed and put out two of the best thrash metal albums that have ever been recorded.
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Chaos A.D is a THRASH/Groove album.

They are one of the best metal bands that has ever existed and put out two of the best thrash metal albums that have ever been recorded.
Max Cavalera and Sepultura
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Max Cavalera and Sepultura
Once he left they went to ****. The only thing that kept them from flat out sucking was Igor and once he left well they band should change their name instead of tarnishing it more.
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Once he left they went to ****. The only thing that kept them from flat out sucking was Igor and once he left well they band should change their name instead of tarnishing it more.
They could never ever replace Max Cavalera with anybody else really. So they went for something very different in Derrick Green, who is just not in the same league as Max and is more of a hardcore than metal vocalist as well.

I didn`t really like the first two Soulfly albums with their mish mash of world music mixed with NU-Metal, but I love "3" "Prophecy" and "Dark Ages". These 3 albums are probably how Sepultura would`ve sounded had Max stayed with them, due to their mixing of world music and the brutal Sepultura sound.
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Yea I agree. The first Soulfly album was good imo but their last 3 are by far their best.
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So how are they not really indicative of thrash especially when you yourself said their early stuff is?

You basically contradticted yourself with that statement.

Chaos A.D is a THRASH/Groove album.

They are one of the best metal bands that has ever existed and put out two of the best thrash metal albums that have ever been recorded.
They sure were a great band. I class the early stuff as death metal(Antichrist is actually my fave Seps tune) and by Arise they had become more like a thrash band.
Chaos AD is definitely one of the best metal records ever.
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I've search and haven't seen these guys get mentioned so I'll just say that Vektor, Mutant, and Fog of War are the best new Thrash Metal bands out there today. Warbringer, Municipal Waste, Fueled By Fire, and Skeletonwitch are great as well.
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