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SGR 02-14-2011 04:10 PM

The 10 Most Essential Rock Albums?
 
What do you guys think they are?

James 02-14-2011 04:13 PM

A somewhat open term Rock don't you think?

SGR 02-14-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1004356)
A somewhat open term Rock don't you think?

Well, I was hoping for some varied lists. A little bit of a prog, a little indie, some classic, you know?

RVCA 02-14-2011 05:09 PM

I'll say it

1.
http://ak.buy.com/PI/0/500/60148746.jpg

2.
http://www.beatlesgifts.com/wp-conte...lbum_cover.jpg

3.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...AtFqMUWWWQ&t=1

4. Pink Floyd- Dark Side of the Moon
5. Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced
6. The Who - Who's Next
7. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
8. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
9. The Cars - S/T
10. The Doors - S/T

did I get them all?

supermarlin 02-14-2011 05:27 PM

Led Zeppelin IV the best :)

James 02-14-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 1004389)
Well, I was hoping for some varied lists. A little bit of a prog, a little indie, some classic, you know?

Cool. *looks up album list*

10.Wipers-Youth Of America
9.The Smashing Pumpkins-Siamese Dream
8.David Bowie-Heroes
7.The Who-Live At Leeds
6.Patti Smith-Horses
5.Boredoms-Vision Creation Newsun
4.Television-Marquee Moon
3.The Beatles-The White Album
2.Faust-Faust IV
1.The Clash-London Calling

Mrd00d 02-15-2011 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1004412)
Cool. *looks up album list*

10.Wipers-Youth Of America
9.The Smashing Pumpkins-Siamese Dream
8.David Bowie-Heroes
7.The Who-Live At Leeds
6.Patti Smith-Horses
5.Boredoms-Vision Creation Newsun
4.Television-Marquee Moon
3.The Beatles-The White Album
2.Faust-Faust IV
1.The Clash-London Calling

Nice list, I'm going to try to compliment that with some stuff from the other end of the spectrum. Wish it was a top 25. I'll probably do that anyway.

Not in any particular order
  • Tool - Lateralus
  • Tomahawk - Tomahawk
  • Beck - Guero
  • Boud Deun - Astronomy Made Easy
  • Buckethead - Shadows Between the Sky
  • Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains - The Big Eyeball in the Sky
  • Dream Machine - The Castle of a Thousand Universes
  • Stone Oak Cosmonaut - Out of Orbit
  • Van der Graaf Generator - H to He, Who Am the Only One
  • Rush - Test For Echo

It's painful to choose ten. That's why I'll sneak another ten in down the line.

Howard the Duck 02-15-2011 04:40 AM

In order of ranking:-

1. The Ramones - The Ramones
2. The Beatles - Revolver
3. The Pretty Things - S.F. Sorrow
4. Jimi Hendrix Experience - Axis : Bold as Love
5. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
6. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
7. Led Zeppellin IV
8. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
9. The Clash - Sandinista!
10. Dylan - Blonde on Blonde

James 02-15-2011 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrd00d (Post 1004826)
Nice list, I'm going to try to compliment that with some stuff from the other end of the spectrum. Wish it was a top 25. I'll probably do that anyway.

Not in any particular order
  • Boud Deun - Astronomy Made Easy
  • Buckethead - Shadows Between the Sky
  • Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains - The Big Eyeball in the Sky
  • Dream Machine - The Castle of a Thousand Universes
  • Stone Oak Cosmonaut - Out of Orbit
  • Van der Graaf Generator - H to He, Who Am the Only One
  • Rush - Test For Echo

It's painful to choose ten. That's why I'll sneak another ten in down the line.

Not heard any of these, although I am not a big Rush fan.

OccultHawk 02-15-2011 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1004834)
In order of ranking:-

1. The Ramones - The Ramones
2. The Beatles - Revolver
3. The Pretty Things - S.F. Sorrow
4. Jimi Hendrix Experience - Axis : Bold as Love
5. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
6. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
7. Led Zeppellin IV
8. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
9. The Clash - Sandinista!
10. Dylan - Blonde on Blonde

If we ever go on a long road trip together, you can choose the tunes.

Howard the Duck 02-15-2011 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1004894)
If we ever go on a long road trip together, you can choose the tunes.

thx for the thumbs up

though I'd add that side 6 of Sandinista! is a tough cookie to sit through

James 02-15-2011 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1004896)
thx for the thumbs up

though I'd add that side 6 of Sandinista! is a tough cookie to sit through

Yeah, who doesn't skip Menforth Hill?

Howard the Duck 02-15-2011 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1004898)
Yeah, who doesn't skip Menforth Hill?

^^I usually skip the entirety of side 6 altogether

ThePhanastasio 02-15-2011 06:02 AM

1.) The Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks
2.) The Who - Quadrophenia
3.) Queen - Queen II
4.) The Talking Heads - Remain In Light
5.) Jefferson Airplane - Surrealistic Pillow
6.) Hawkwind - The Hall Of the Mountain Grill
7.) Phish - Junta
8.) Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica
9.) The Electric Prunes - The Electric Prunes
10.) The Arcade Fire - Funeral

James 02-15-2011 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1004905)
10.) The Arcade Fire - Funeral

Ewww.

OccultHawk 02-15-2011 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1004896)
thx for the thumbs up

though I'd add that side 6 of Sandinista! is a tough cookie to sit through

I got really into that record as a teenager. A lot of it I took apart and reassembled on mix tapes. Then later in life, after I finally got it on CD I started taking it in as a whole. I love it. Although I usually only listen to half of it at a time. That's the way I do all my double CDs since I'm too disorganized to ever find two together.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 02-15-2011 06:49 AM

Sticking only to acts predominately rock(trying to avoid making this a favorite album list.)

1. Jimi Hendrix - Are you Experienced?
2. Paranoid - Black Sabbath
3. The Who - Who's Next
4. Deep Purple - Made in Japan
5. Gong - Gong's Angel Egg Trilogy(I consider it one big album)
6. Slayer - Hell Awaits
7. Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
8. Cream - The best of Cream
9. Primus - Frizzle Fry
10. Soft Machine - Soft Machine 2

Howard the Duck 02-15-2011 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1004905)
1.) The Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks
2.) The Who - Quadrophenia
3.) Queen - Queen II
4.) The Talking Heads - Remain In Light
5.) Jefferson Airplane - Surrealistic Pillow
6.) Hawkwind - The Hall Of the Mountain Grill
7.) Phish - Junta
8.) Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica
9.) The Electric Prunes - The Electric Prunes
10.) The Arcade Fire - Funeral

i haven't heard 3, 5, 6, 7 & 8

1 is just New York Dolls album 2.5

10 makes me zzzzzzzzzz

Mrd00d 02-15-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1004835)
Not heard any of these, although I am not a big Rush fan.

If I were to only listen to one Rush album, I would pick Test for Echo. Seems highly overlooked as well /shrug. Tool based Lateralus, the song, on Test For Echo, the song.

That Van der Graaf Generator album is my favorite prog album, ever. I think it flows with the best of em (Crimson King, etc.)

Boud Deun... I don't know much about them. But the album is basically flawless. Instrumental, beautiful.

Colonel Claypool Bucket of Bernie Brains, C2B3, is my favorite Claypool project. Frog Brigade is a close second, but with Buckethead, Brain, and Bernie Worrel of P-Funk fame... well... :afro:

Dream Machine has an Ozric Tentacle or two, and the music is beautiful and rockin'

That Buckethead album was released early 2010 I believe and I regard it one of his very best, if not THE best.

Stone Oak Cosmonaut is a new European space rock band. Really dig their first album. Played it for ages.

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In other words, I highly recommend.

James 02-15-2011 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrd00d (Post 1004936)
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In other words, I highly recommend.

I shall take the recommendation, I like a few Rush songs and I really admire their talent.

Kinda Blue 02-15-2011 02:26 PM

Not a very well-reflected list, just a list of ten essential rock albums that I could think of (in no particular order):
  • The Who - Tommy
  • Television - Marquee Moon
  • Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
  • Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
  • Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
  • King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
  • The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico
  • Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
  • Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon
  • Yes - Close To The Edge

MisterFuzzyHead 02-15-2011 06:17 PM

Ok here we go

1 Rush Chronicles
2 Twisted Sister Stay Hungry
3 Pantera Cowboys from hell
4 zz top best of
5 tom petty best of

Do I have to do 10?

jackhammer 02-15-2011 06:29 PM

Since when have Wipers, Slayer, Boredoms, Faust, My Bloody Valentine, Primus or Arcade Fire been essential Rock albums?

I could put 50 people in front of you and barely 10% would of even heard of these artists.

It's time to just list straight up Rock music here and what people may like.

PinkCigarette 02-15-2011 06:29 PM

Led Zeppelin 1-4.

MisterFuzzyHead 02-15-2011 06:37 PM

in the 50's rock was almost banned because of what it made people do - what would rock be now compared to that?

Insane Guest 02-15-2011 07:37 PM

Rush - Moving Pictures
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
The Rolling Stones - Let it Bleed
The Stone Roses - Self Titled
Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction
UFO - Phenomenon
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
Deep Purple - Machine Head
The Who - Who's Next

Mrd00d 02-15-2011 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1005341)
Since when have Wipers, Slayer, Boredoms, Faust, My Bloody Valentine, Primus or Arcade Fire been essential Rock albums?

I could put 50 people in front of you and barely 10% would of even heard of these artists.

It's time to just list straight up Rock music here and what people may like.

That's not anybody's fault but their own. Maybe if they opened their ears they wouldn't have trouble accepting 'lesser known' bands.

Haven't heard of Primus? Pfft

RVCA 02-15-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1005341)
Since when have Wipers, Slayer, Boredoms, Faust, My Bloody Valentine, Primus or Arcade Fire been essential Rock albums?

I could put 50 people in front of you and barely 10% would of even heard of these artists.

It's time to just list straight up Rock music here and what people may like.

RVCA's list FTW

James 02-16-2011 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1005341)
Since when have Wipers, Slayer, Boredoms, Faust, My Bloody Valentine, Primus or Arcade Fire been essential Rock albums?

I could put 50 people in front of you and barely 10% would of even heard of these artists.

It's time to just list straight up Rock music here and what people may like.

Well, we aren't the average music listener are we? When we think Essential Rock we think of a much looser term and all those bands are offshoots of Rock(except maybe MBV).

Unknown Soldier 02-16-2011 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterFuzzyHead (Post 1005335)
Ok here we go

1 Rush Chronicles
2 Twisted Sister Stay Hungry
3 Pantera Cowboys from hell
4 zz top best of
5 tom petty best of

Do I have to do 10?

Well you need to do another 7 as Twisted Sister and Pantera are metal! Also, I don`t know why so many people insist on sticking in best of albums.

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Originally Posted by Lone Misfit (Post 1005396)
Rush - Moving Pictures
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
The Rolling Stones - Let it Bleed
The Stone Roses - Self Titled
Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction
UFO - Phenomenon
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
Deep Purple - Machine Head
The Who - Who's Next

The best list so far, despite its classic rock feel.

Also FTW the list of RCVA had some great stuff on it, especially the S/T releases by the Doors and the Cars, two of the best debut albums ever recorded.

Jedey 02-16-2011 05:07 AM

1) Derek & The Dominos ~ Layla and other assorted love songs
2) The Beatles ~ Abbey Road
3) Bob Dylan ~ Bringing It All Back Home
4) The Rolling Stones ~ Let It Bleed
5) The Jayhawks ~ Hollywood Town Hall
6) Son Volt ~ Trace
7) Elvis Costello ~ This Year's Model
8) Bruce Springsteen ~ The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle
9) The Who ~ Who's Next
10) The Band ~ Music From Big Pink

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 02-16-2011 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1005341)
Since when have Wipers, Slayer, Boredoms, Faust, My Bloody Valentine, Primus or Arcade Fire been essential Rock albums?

I could put 50 people in front of you and barely 10% would of even heard of these artists.

It's time to just list straight up Rock music here and what people may like.

I would argue a million times over that Slayer is a very significant metal band. They are pretty much the band that bridged the mainstream into black/death/speed metal. I personally went for only sounds that represented certain aspects of Rock. I mean, IE. Zappa's Hot Rats because it typifies Jazz Fusion in predominately rock form, and Gong's Angel Egg Trilogy because it's my favorite psychedelic work, and I feel for being so deep fairly easy for the rock listener to digest.

Obviously, I'm not putting Brotzmann, and Koenji Hyakkei on this list. Still, if you're putting up a list that contains everything you should put up one or two that fit more non-commercial avenues.

OccultHawk 02-16-2011 06:03 AM

Quote:

I would argue a million times over that Slayer is a very significant metal band.
They're easily in the top five.

ThePhanastasio 02-16-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1005341)
Since when have Wipers, Slayer, Boredoms, Faust, My Bloody Valentine, Primus or Arcade Fire been essential Rock albums?

I could put 50 people in front of you and barely 10% would of even heard of these artists.

It's time to just list straight up Rock music here and what people may like.

Yeah, I can really see what you're saying here; in order for something to be "essential", it would have to typify rock and roll as a whole, and stand alone as an album which would appeal to a significant amount of people as an achievement in the genre.

With that said, I'll still stand by my list. I was kind of iffy about including Arcade Fire, to be quite honest, but I made my list more as the top 10 albums I would hand to someone who had never heard anything in the "rock and roll" genre. I figured a more contemporary inclusion would be necessary for this, although it certainly hasn't reached "classic" status. Who knows? It may never (probably won't) reach classic status, but I feel like it fit.

It's pretty subjective, anyway.

captaincaptain 02-16-2011 05:25 PM

No particular order, actually it's in chronological order.

Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley (1956)
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited (1965)
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced? (1967)
MC5 - Kick Out The Jams (1969)
The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street (1972)
Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
Ramones - Ramones (1976)
R.E.M. - Murmur (1983)
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (1988)
Radiohead - OK Computer (1997)

Palatable Vera 02-16-2011 07:17 PM

This is actually something that I've thought about before. The essential albums thing, I mean. Obviously no such list will ever exist in an immaculate form -- or maybe not even close to immaculate -- but one could attempt to make one. While these types of lists never stray too far from a personal list or some critic list, it's always interesting to see the results. That being said, here's mine in no particular order:

The Doors - The Soft Parade
--The Doors were arguably one of the better acts from the 60's. While some of their stuff (ie: Waiting For The Sun) may not have aged well and even more of it may seem really cheesy now-a-days, their short legacy is still one of note. Even if you haven't heard the Doors, you've definitely heard of them. You may have heard about their blend of blues and their little Gothic-styled pop, their corny pop era, about Jim Morrison. What makes this album so special and deserving of a space on an essential albums list is the fact that it is the quintessence of the Doors. Even with their more flowery elements introduced on The Soft Parade, it still delivers the the dark vision of Morrison (but you can't OD on it like you could on albums life The Doors or Strange Days since there's a fair amount of Robby Krieger-penned songs as well) and the tight performances of each and every member. While at first it may not seem to pleasing or even up to the standards of the other Doors albums, it just might grow on you after a while with its intoxicating pop hooks and overall catchy melodies. Yeah, it's weird to hear the Lizard King sing these cheesy-ass pop songs, but he does it well. Almost to the point of being believable. It may not be the best Doors album, but it's definitely my favorite.

The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed
-- This may seem like an "obvious choice" sort of album, and maybe it is. But if it's any consolation, this was a tough debate between Their Satanic Majesties Request, Beggars Banquet, and this. But all-in-all, this is the stronger and more consistent product. Maybe most of the appeal comes from its atmosphere: it's dark and yet darkly funny. From the opening riffs of "Gimme Shelter" and its pleading for protection from this prophetic "storm" to the burnt-out and perhaps tongue-in-cheek title track to the choral ascension in "You Can't Always Get What You Want", I find myself thoroughly entertained. The Stones are at the top of their game too. While their "slump" era only exists to those who want it to exist, this is probably why people believe that they became utter crap after Goats Head Soup (I like them all, actually, if you can believe it. Yes, even Dirty Work) since this shows a form of musicianship that has never since been emulated by anybody else -- not even the Stones themselves. It's one of those few "classic" albums that actually deserves the ungodly amounts of acclaim that it gets, even though it's unjustly overshadowed by Exile On Main St.

The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
--Another album that is overshadowed by another release. While many would hop on that Soft Bulletin or Clouds Taste Metallic bandwagon (well, maybe "bandwagon" is a bad word for it), I find that Yoshimi is the much more accessible album. Not only accessible, but a lot more relatable. While Wayne Coyne's humanitarianism shows more on At War With The Mystics, it can also be readily found here in its subtle lucidity and in a much more listenable form. While it's true that they sound a tad more commercialized here, I can easily look over that in favor of its light playfulness and slushy, dreamy performances. Various electronic noises are everywhere along with seemingly random sound effects. You might think that it would sound "bad" because of that, but in the usual FLips style, they make it work. And that's really the appeal of the FLips, isn't it? Their quirkiness can make anything they do sound good (or at least listenable). To be honest, though, this is a questionable choice, but it gets my full support anyway.

Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F#A# (Infinity)
--While GY!BE is more well-known for Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennaes To Heaven, their previous effort -- their official debut, mind you -- is just as good if not better. At that time, they were already a mature act, and that fact translated well onto record. It's a bleak endeavor. If "Gimme Shelter" were an album by a post-rock band, this would be it. It starts out just as foreboding-ly ("We are trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and this machine is bleeding to death"). It plays out slow, sure, but that just brings out its bleakness. It may be hard to sit through it for an hour, but the greatness of it is almost undeniably there. It's edgy and paranoid post-rock being played by eccentric visionaries, something that doesn't happen often. It's an experience, and a mind-blowing one at that. It's probably the most atmospheric thing that I've ever heard. The only thing that's ever came close to matching its atmosphere and quality was that Slow Riot EP that came out a while later.

Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
--Perhaps I seem a tad typical for putting of these "critically acclaimed" albums on this list. Really though, I find Zimmers' almost petulant attitude very appealing, especially if it would result in his surrealistic and allegorical tour de forces. Luckily for me, the majority of Highway 61 is composed of those allegorical tour de forces. Unfortunately for Zimmers' avid folk fans, he continues his little electric excursion, and this time is unrelenting, not offering a single unplugged piece whatsoever except for the bombastic closing track(well, as "bombast" as an acoustic piece can get). But for those who adapted to Zimmers' new-found sound, this offers a very tasty array of compositions. With Bringing It, his electric bits were still unpolished, but with a few months between this and that, we get to see a massive improvement over what we were offered on the last album. I would even go so far as to haphazardly call this "perfect". It's very rare that we get to see every step in an artist's development, but Zimmers only puts a few weeks between a release and new recording sessions(well, he did earlier in his career, anyway), so we get to see almost every detail in maturing. He's literally growing up musically and lyrically right before our ears. That being said though, you can't help but feel that this album was somewhat rushed. Or at least really loose, which makes up most of its charm.

A Silver Mt Zion - Horses In The Sky
--Is it any surprise that a subsidiary of such a great band as Godspeed You! Black Emperor could make such a great album? Yes, a few of the albums listed already have some sort of dark air about them, and yes, this one does too. It's more like pleading, really, but that's not really what makes this so great. It's a very unconventional album, as you could probably guess. But they're not being unconventional just for the sake of being unconventional (I don't think so, anyway). Every little aspect here is used very artistically and in turn sounds really good. There's everything from syncopation to un-tuned guitars, but it all sounds good. How? I'm not all to sure. There's nothing esoteric about all the little tricks that they use, though, as those quirks can be found in several other artists discographies, but they are used very well here. Horses In The Sky is another "quintessential" albums of sorts, and it has a charm that's almost indescribable in words. It may be a cop-out to say that, but I really couldn't.

The Decemberists - The Crane Wife
--Folk and prog are a weird mix. Then again, the Decemberists could be described a "weird" band as well. Not only does it have well-crafted hooks but it also has a tad bit of nostalgia about it. It may not seem amazing when you first start listening to it, as "The Crane Wife #3" seems a bit airy, but as it progresses into the more bombastic songs and more resonant songs, it's true beauty shows through. Yes, it's a beautiful album, both in music and in lyrics. It's a concept album, but the meaning's not buried in metaphors and obscure lyrics. It's straightforward, and if you don't like straightforward albums, it's easily forgivable by the music itself. And as for the music, it flows together really well. Like, really well. The transition from "Shankill Butchers" to "Summersong" is a prime example. It's consistent and it's solid. It's a great album.

Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
--OK, yeah, shoot me. Atom Heart Mother is highly criticized, and I can see why. In all honestly, I find myself having a hard time liking it on occasion, but not very often. It's experimental, yes, and it breaks away from the Floyd's usual style, yes. But that's no reason to hate it, right? In fact, I haven't really heard a valid reason why people dislike it. It takes risks, it's a jagged album, but it's a good jagged album. It has an epochness to it, and yet it also has an ambiguity to it. It's really on this list for more novelty reasons, but it's "essential" in the sense that you're listening to a more experimental release. It's a nice thing to look back on.

Sparklehorse - Good Morning, Spider
(I don't have a lot to say about this at the moment)

King Crimson - Red
(Same as above. Not a lot to say right now.)

Anyway, maybe my list seems bland or predictable but... Eh.

Siddhartha 02-18-2011 08:02 AM

steppenwolf, 7

jimi hendrix, band of gypsies

the doors, absolutely live

steppenwolf

OccultHawk 02-18-2011 08:40 AM

these are not necessarily my favorites- just albums i think are essential to the understanding of rock'n'roll

Chuck Berry- One Dozen Berrys
Elvis Presley- Elvis Presley
The Beatles- Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The Rolling Stones- Sticky Fingers
Pink Floyd- Dark Side of the Moon
Jimi Hendrix- Are You Experienced
Led Zeppelin- II
Black Sabbath- Paranoid
Ramones- Ramones
Slayer- Reign in Blood

RVCA 02-18-2011 03:33 PM

Palatable Vera - great list, you obviously put a lot of thought and time into it. Nice.

Mrd00d 02-18-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 1007132)
Palatable Vera - great list, you obviously put a lot of thought and time into it. Nice.

Seconded, great effort!


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