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Old 01-13-2011, 04:31 PM   #101 (permalink)
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They thought they were like the next Led Zeppelin or something. At least that's how it seemed to me.
90% of all hair metal acts based themselves on Aerosmith with the other 10% of influence coming from the likes of Kiss, Alice Cooper and the British glam rock brigade of the 70`s.
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Old 01-13-2011, 04:51 PM   #102 (permalink)
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90% of all hair metal acts based themselves on Aerosmith with the other 10% of influence coming from the likes of Kiss, Alice Cooper and the British glam rock brigade of the 70`s.
Let's not forget about the Van Halen influence! Most of those hair metal band would've been lost if they didn't have David Lee Roth to imitate.
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Old 01-13-2011, 04:57 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Let's not forget about the Van Halen influence! Most of those hair metal band would've been lost if they didn't have David Lee Roth to imitate.
You`re right, completely forgot one of the most obvious influences there David Lee Roth prancing around in spandex has a lot to answer for.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:04 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Curt Cobain specifically set out to make Nevermind simple. He wanted it to be like children's music. It was harsh music that was very accessible. If you want depth just for depth's sake, that just seems arbitrary.

And I love Zeppelin, but as deep Stairway to Heaven is, I'm sick and tired of it, but I've never gotten sick of Teen Spirit.
Stairway to Heaven is overrated. However, I was speaking of the sheer volume of depth in their catalog. Led Zeppelin have an infinitely larger, deeper, and more evolving catalog than Nirvana. Nirvana was a decent band, Zep was an AMAZING band.

My point was not what Kurt Cobain was trying to do. It was the fact that I was having an extremely overrated, incredibly shallow, repetitive "Catchy Chorus song" which the fullest extent of dynamic shift is a constant, unchanging, repetitive shifts between mumbling/clean guitar to screaming/distorted guitar. It's a one trick pony that marches in circles, and it's still to this day considered a landmark song for some reason.

It's just a really really awful song, to be frank, and shoved down our throats. As for the "children's music" thing, it's basically Cobain's way of essentially making mainstream music in hopes of cashing in(which ended up ****ing his brain because he was in denial of that), and still trying to sound cool about it.
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:47 PM   #105 (permalink)
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^^Yeah, I was shaking my head a lot while I read that post. I disagreed with almost everything you said...
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I agree with everything he said.
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I agree with everything he said too.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:56 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Stairway to Heaven is overrated. However, I was speaking of the sheer volume of depth in their catalog. Led Zeppelin have an infinitely larger, deeper, and more evolving catalog than Nirvana. Nirvana was a decent band, Zep was an AMAZING band.
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I think its unfair to compare Nirvana`s catalogue to that of Led Zeppelin as they only had 3 studio albums, so based on that Led Zeppelin are going to have more depth.

I think making a comparison between the two is very hard, but what they both have in common is that when they came out, both blew the competition away and both have some of the best rock albums ever recorded. Led Zeppelin with 5 classic albums and Nirvana with 2 classic albums.


The one thing about Nirvana is that they never had time to go downhill like Led Zeppelin did, Also Kurt Cobain didn`t have time to undertake a boring and bland solo career like Robert Plant did.
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The one thing about Nirvana is that they never had time to go downhill like Led Zeppelin did,
I actually feel like Bonham died just in time. I love In Through the Out Door.
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The one thing about Nirvana is that they never had time to go downhill like Led Zeppelin did, Also Kurt Cobain didn`t have time to undertake a boring and bland solo career like Robert Plant did.

To be fair, I still think that Cobain would have been interesting as a solo. Plant was always going to be a (Very classic, in my opinion) front man, and whatever he did was going to fall on who was backing him, so this left him with a great band plus a fine reunion with the ace guitarist (...Axl, if he ever wakes up, should get back with Slash ASAP) and a series of solo albums that fell short more than the last. Cobain, however, was a good musician who had more of an Indie ethic, and supported plenty of music that other stars would not have touched. I will stand by my thoughts that Cobain would have went back to the Indie world or acoustic. Maybe the energy of Nirvana would have faded away, but somehow he at least would have still have something interesting to offer his listeners.
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