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Old 03-30-2005, 09:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If you have not heard of this band yet, then you are not enlightened on what band is the greatest at what they do... I pray that people can listen to these guys and realize the shear talent and prowess. I worship these men, if you like music, then you must like this band.
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Beat band ever???????????

How about cheesy metal guitar wankathon
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Beat band ever???????????

How about cheesy metal guitar wankathon
Agreed. Far from the greatest metal band of this era...very far.
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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There is something to be said for passion over scales. You can't have one and not the other.

Dream Theater is all math and no heart. While they are great musicians, their just out there progressing music as a science and not as an art. If you don't do both, you'll never be the greatest band ever.

Also, there has been a rash of newbies (sub 5 post count) that have been dropping in just to push an ageda, we must be advertising somewhere.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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There is something to be said for passion over scales. You can't have one and not the other.

Dream Theater is all math and no heart. While they are great musicians, their just out there progressing music as a science and not as an art. If you don't do both, you'll never be the greatest band ever.

Also, there has been a rash of newbies (sub 5 post count) that have been dropping in just to push an ageda, we must be advertising somewhere.
My random number generator has picked you, so be it.

So what you're saying, more or less, is that it's impossible for a band to be insanely technical, and then to also have tracks where they display their technical brilliance in contrast with brilliant compositions? Such an ignorant statement.

I'm guessing you're one of those “I listened to a few DT tracks and all they do is wank” people. In fact, half of DT's catalogue doesn't consist of wanking. So saying DT is all wank is a hideously incorrect statement (I refer you to when you said “all”). But you obliviously know this, so this brings me to my main point.

Saying DT has no heart and seeming as though you're speaking on everyone's behalf is an extremely foolish thing to say. Are you saying that the only people who like DT are musicians who appreciate their talent? You can't make a general statement about the band just because you don't feel any emotional connection with any of the tracks that you have heard. Have you even seen them perform live? It's not hard to see that even after countless performances, DT have a passion for their music.

I keep quoting the same link, but I think it's the best example of what I'm trying to say – it blends technical insanity with pure beauty. And if you don't feel anything from watching this clip, no one cares, because I can assure you that millions do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAOIUWv1ilo
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My random number generator has picked you, so be it.

So what you're saying, more or less, is that it's impossible for a band to be insanely technical, and then to also have tracks where they display their technical brilliance in contrast with brilliant compositions? Such an ignorant statement.

I'm guessing you're one of those “I listened to a few DT tracks and all they do is wank” people. In fact, half of DT's catalogue doesn't consist of wanking. So saying DT is all wank is a hideously incorrect statement (I refer you to when you said “all”). But you obliviously know this, so this brings me to my main point.

Saying DT has no heart and seeming as though you're speaking on everyone's behalf is an extremely foolish thing to say. Are you saying that the only people who like DT are musicians who appreciate their talent? You can't make a general statement about the band just because you don't feel any emotional connection with any of the tracks that you have heard. Have you even seen them perform live? It's not hard to see that even after countless performances, DT have a passion for their music.

I keep quoting the same link, but I think it's the best example of what I'm trying to say – it blends technical insanity with pure beauty. And if you don't feel anything from watching this clip, no one cares, because I can assure you that millions do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAOIUWv1ilo
So what you're saying in the final passge of this epic reply is that, even if everything you've just speculated about me is wrong, it still doesn't matter because people like it so I must be wrong? Explain to me why I'd want to address any of your concerns or critisisms then? Better yet, explain to me why you'd even bother replying in the first place?

But seeing as public defamation should warrent eye-for-an-eye responce. Lets select a few of these and make a counterpoint.

First off, for better or worse I own a Dream Theater CD, so I've heard more than a few songs. Secondly, I don't even hate it all, but lets call a spade a spade, if DT isn't a "wankathon" then what is? Some guy warming up with scales before he plays other neo-classical music?


My statement that they have no heart is that their music is emotionless. Its clinical, mechanical, and robotic. And whats funny is, correct or incorrect we can all make any statement here we want within parameters, and thats the statement I did make. And no, I havn't seen them live, but I did hear live recording of them covering the entiere Master of Puppets album. And that was awful.

In regards to the first two things you wrote, yes that would be an ignorant statement had I made it, But I didn't, I said what makes a great band is when they have both. Technique and passion. Obviously we can deduce that I feel they are combine-able.

Lastly, but I should say, most importantly, WTF is a random number generator doing picking people? Should it pick numbers? Run that one by me. Unless of course it choose three.
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I don`t hear anything progressive about Dream Theatre.

Maybe 20 or 30 years ago they might have been , but music has moved on since then.

All I hear when I hear that band (Which is as least often as possible) is a guitarist who loves himself too much , a vocalist who wishes it was still the 80s & some of the most po faced ,cliche ridden lyrics i`ve ever heard
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I don`t hear anything progressive about Dream Theatre.

Maybe 20 or 30 years ago they might have been , but music has moved on since then.

All I hear when I hear that band (Which is as least often as possible) is a guitarist who loves himself too much , a vocalist who wishes it was still the 80s & some of the most po faced ,cliche ridden lyrics i`ve ever heard
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they have a damn good drummer
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