sleepy jack

I wasn't just refering to this thread. You have a tendency to treat it like you're better then everyone else and half you're arguing skills consist of going on about knowledge you have which you rarely back up, and you really do act arrogant. I was trying to be as nice about it as possible, but seriously get off your high horse.

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Merkaba

Okay, now apply that same thinking to how LaBrie is possibly the greatest singer.

You never back your arguments up, and I'm not suprised, good luck trying to find proof when you've got your head in the sand.

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Don

Even if LaBrie's range was only 2.75, it still means nothing. I said range AND tonal expression.

Oh dear, perhaps you need to look up what tone really is in musical terms, I won't embarrass you.

sleepy jack

Won't or can't? This is what were talking about, you never back it up.

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Don

Do you even know how arguments work? He's the one that said LaBrie's crap, then I said ok fine, name a singer that's better. He failed miserably, etc, etc. In other words, he's the one that started this pure excuse for an argument.

PS: I edited that post you quoted me on.

Don

Never back anything up? Oh dear, do you even read my posts? I'll just pick one example:


“lol!!! Wow, you think you're like the smartest man in the world when it comes to music rofl. And for a 19 year old, that's pretty hilarious if I do say so myself.
It's also funny how you think I don't know what you're trying to say, hahaha. Oh wow, so let me get this straight; you're saying that composition is a part of technical skill! omggg how the hell did I guess that? I must be a genius (which I am). You're just too dumb to realise the basis of what I've been arguing with you, and I'm obviously on the winning side since I'm the one that started the poll! lol times 5!

So okay, I'll explain my side for you, being the law grad that I am:

1) The first and most important point is: I made the poll so I'm the one that consequently decides what the theme is about,

2) I was initially going to make it in terms of technical skill alone but I realised that the misinformed wouldn't actually know who (or how) to vote, which is silly in itself, so there isn't really a need for such poll, and indeed one of this magnitude,

3) So what I decided to do was make it in terms of technical/[SLASH]composition, with the slash meaning OR, or a combination of the two. So this means that someone could vote whom they thought was the best technical guitarist (and decide that by technical skill alone or composition, which is what you've pointed out so obviously to me) OR, they could choose to vote for a guitarist that they just happen to appreciate for whatever reason, and that reason can be dumbed down to “composition,”

4) Now, there of course is a major flaw with this poll and indeed of all polls. The flaw being that the maker of the poll isn't assured that the people voting will share similar (or a relatively high) knowledge about the theme of the poll. Which means, in terms of this example, that obviously not everyone is going to have heard every single CD and demonstration video of every guitarist on there. And even if this was the case, who's to say if they really know what's technically skilled or not? Which would mean that you would have to be perhaps a professional guitarist to vote properly if you were going to vote purely on skill and come to an appropriate conclusion. But of course, I posted this poll on a site which features people of a wide range of ages and knowledge, which means that if someone liked a guitarist just because they play for their favourite band (or for whatever reason), that's fine. And it's something that we can't measure, and if we could there wouldn't be a point for a poll,

5) The main conjecture is that you were saying composition is a skill that can be measured objectively and thus be contributed to skill. I actually agree with this (and had many long arguments about it), but this is not what I was arguing against here. I was arguing about the theme of the poll, and like I said, I made the damn poll, so of course I'm right. I created this so called argument because of your extreme arrogance which seems to exponentially climb. I merely wanted to point out that thinking Cobain was skilled for whatever reason is fine, and that it seems like you think you get to decide who likes what and like you know exactly who the BEST EVER MUISICANS WITH A 100% CERTAINTY are. I gave up caring about that whole crap long ago when I realised music is a lot more about who's the best, it all comes down to recognition, which all comes down to feeling...And I learnt that when I was about seven...”



And PS: A mod added in Robert Smith, not me.

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boo boo

His range is average at best, at least compared to some of the vocalists i mentioned.

Buckley had a 4 octave range, i dont see how LaBries tone makes him more talented.

Tone can be pretty subjective anyway, it involves bone structure, the overall shape of your vocal chords, even your cheek structure, its not any different to how the outer layer of a horn instrument changes its tone.

In other words, the human anatomy plays a big role in a individual tone.


Im talking to a classicaly trained singer as we speak, we're on argeement about how freaking stupid you are.

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Don

That's funny, that's exactly what I feel about boo boo. I always back up my knowledge if it's worth doing so.

EG: I am sitting on a chair...do I really have to prove to you that I'm doing that?

Don

If ANYONE believes that...

That'd be as bad as believing that social worker thing lol.

Don

Fool, I'm not saying LaBrie is the greatest singer. All I was saying to begin with was it's hard for me to think of a better singer. Then boo boo comes and waves his "GOD-GIVEN OPINONS" around me and pretty much says: "YOU'RE WRONG, LABRIE SUXXXXXXX!!!"

I know I replied to you twice, but this was a good point that everyone seems to miss.