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View Poll Results: Who is the Greatest of the Big Four of thrash metal?
Anthrax 12 6.98%
Megadeth 47 27.33%
Metallica 69 40.12%
Slayer 44 25.58%
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Old 08-26-2010, 11:37 AM   #51 (permalink)
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For most of the 90's Megadeth didn`t do too much thrash.

Apart from "Bonded By Blood" Exodus weren`t really good enough music wise to warrant a big 5 accolade. Picking a popular thrash band from the same era, I would say that the discography of Testament was superior.
Indeed, however I think Testament really hit their stride in '99 with The Gathering, which plays more like a death metal album than thrash metal. Still it is cool seeing one of the old school Bay Area thrash bands keeping up with the times and experimenting in ways other than corporate sellout. Steve DiGiorgio's presence is really felt on that album, it's a shame that he only played for that one album because I think he could have really been a key member for the band.
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Indeed, however I think Testament really hit their stride in '99 with The Gathering, which plays more like a death metal album than thrash metal. Still it is cool seeing one of the old school Bay Area thrash bands keeping up with the times and experimenting in ways other than corporate sellout. Steve DiGiorgio's presence is really felt on that album, it's a shame that he only played for that one album because I think he could have really been a key member for the band.
Just looked this album up and found out Dave Lombardo is on it. Now I'll definitely have to check it out.
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Old 08-26-2010, 12:40 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Indeed, however I think Testament really hit their stride in '99 with The Gathering, which plays more like a death metal album than thrash metal. Still it is cool seeing one of the old school Bay Area thrash bands keeping up with the times and experimenting in ways other than corporate sellout. Steve DiGiorgio's presence is really felt on that album, it's a shame that he only played for that one album because I think he could have really been a key member for the band.
The Testament albums I had in mind were "The New Order" "The Ritual" and "The Gathering". The Gathering is probably the heaviest and most aggressive thing that I`ve heard by them. I seem to remember, they started the move to more death metal in style on the previous "Demonic" album.
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Old 08-26-2010, 12:49 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Indeed, however I think Testament really hit their stride in '99 with The Gathering, which plays more like a death metal album than thrash metal.
Indeed "The Gathering" is by far the best Testament record, and finally placed Chuck Billy (or is it Billy Chuck?) and co. away from Metallica's shadow. This is by far their most brutal and technical record, but calling this a Testament record is kind of a misnomer since for this recording they were a short-lived supergroup consisting of Dave Lombardo, James Murphy as well as DiGiorgio. Lombardo bolted to rejoin Slayer, then the band fell apart.

Judging each of the big Four's first 5 records, I've come up with:

Metallica > Slayer > Megadeth ---- Anthrax didn't make the cut.

Kill'em All > Show No Mercy > Killing is my Business
Ride the Lightning > Peace Sells > Hell Awaits
Reign In Blood > Master of Puppets > So Far So Good
Rust In Peace > Justice For All > South of Heaven
Seasons in the Abyss > Countdown to Extinction > Metallica

Metallica = 2 number ones + 2 number twos + 1 number three
Slayer = 2 number ones + 1 number two + 2 number threes
Megadeth* = 1 number one + 2 number two + 2 number threes

*As a consolation for Megadeth, they've totally kicked the crap out of both Metallica and Slayer in judging they're last 3 albums. His new guitarist, Broderick is one of the best ever to sling for Megadeth and album, Endgames is up there with Mustaine's best work.

I agree with Unknown Soldier...Anthrax is completely generic and relied on gimmicks to gain attention. The gimmick I found most repulsive was that nu-metal rap song they did with that rapper...I think is was Public Enemy, I don't know...I'm trying to forget it.
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:06 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I agree with Unknown Soldier...Anthrax is completely generic and relied on gimmicks to gain attention. The gimmick I found most repulsive was that nu-metal rap song they did with that rapper...I think is was Public Enemy, I don't know...I'm trying to forget it.
you're thinking Bring The Noise with Chuck D. it's hardly a gimmick when you're the first ones to do it though at that point it's generally considered innovative. shocking! i know.
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:15 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Apart from the association with Nuclear Assault (who clearly came from a Hardcore Punk background) I agree that Voivod pissed all over anything released after '88 and are ridiculously under appreciated.

And Justice For all is an over wrought piece of trash that bored me in '88 and still bores me now.

Overkill were a fun band with a punk attitude and Exodus unfortunately suffered through line up changes.

Kreator are a decent band though and sound unlike anyone else, which is no mean feat.

First Death Angel album though is a classic Urbs Still sounds good today and full of attitude and fire.
I don't think AJFA is trash, but I never understood the fascination with it. For me their first three were better.

Voivod is fantastic and easily the best proggy/techy thrash act - Coroner and Artillery were decent too. And there's a weirdo German band called Mekong Delta which actually managed to do the classical/thrash thing properly.


Here's their version of Mussorgsky's Night on the Bare Mountain.


And one of their early songs.

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I don't think AJFA is trash, but I never understood the fascination with it. For me their first three were better.
Most Metallica fans that I know of really like AJFA!!! and I also see it as the last great album by the group in their first phase despite its shoddy production. I`d rather listen to this album than the following Metallica album anytime.
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Most Metallica fans that I know of really like AJFA!!! and I also see it as the last great album by the group in their first phase despite its shoddy production. I`d rather listen to this album than the following Metallica album anytime.
Don't get me wrong, I like AJFA and it features Metallica at their best in places (Blackened, Dyers Eve and One) but a lot of it just feels too drawn out. Mind you, I haven't listened to it in a few years so perhaps it's due for re-evaluation?
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Kill'em All > Show No Mercy > Killing is my Business
Ride the Lightning > Peace Sells > Hell Awaits
Reign In Blood > Master of Puppets > So Far So Good
Rust In Peace > Justice For All > South of Heaven
Seasons in the Abyss > Countdown to Extinction > Metallica
Lets tweek this a little

Kill`em All> Show No Mercy> Killing is my Business
Ride the Lightning> Peace Sells> Hell Awaits
Master of Puppets> Reign in Blood> So Far So Good
Rust in Peace> And Justice For All> South of Heaven
Seasons in the Abyss> Countdown to Extinction> Metallica

The ten Essential thrash albums would be as follows and in no special order. Also including other groups in this early period of thrash as well:
Slayer-Seasons in the Abyss
Slayer-South Of Heaven
Slayer-Reign in Blood
Metallica-Master of Puppets
Metallica-Ride the Lightning
Megadeth-Rust in Peace
Megadeth-Countdown to Extinction
Anthrax-Among the Living
Exodus-Bonded By Blood
Overkill-Years of Decay

The essential releases by non anglophone bands would be:
Sepultura-Beneath the Remains
Sepultura-Arise
Voivod-Dimension Hatross
Voivod-Nothingface
Kreator-Coma of Souls

I`m sure I`ve forgotten some bands here.........
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Don't get me wrong, I like AJFA and it features Metallica at their best in places (Blackened, Dyers Eve and One) but a lot of it just feels too drawn out. Mind you, I haven't listened to it in a few years so perhaps it's due for re-evaluation?
Long songs, overly complex and drawn out......sounds like a classic prog album.
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