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CoNtrivedNiHilism 08-10-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rattlehead44483 (Post 1623978)
Most people who vote for Metallica don't know the history behind them, they wouldn't have made as big of of a scene in metal if it wasn't for Dave Mustaine, Dave Mustaine is like God when it comes to metal, he pretty much created started speed metal and made made every other thrash/metal band that was in the scene before Megadeth have to pick up their pace and step up their game, it was just another ball game once they started, and everyone realized it, he made everyone get off their asses.

I am positive that Metallica would have made it as big as they did even if Dave had never been a member in the first place, Dave was not by any stretch the muscle or brains in that band. Would I argue that he's a great guitar player? No. Dave is a great player. But he is not the reason that Metallica hit it big. Cliff Burton has always been the forefront of talent in Metallica, a brilliant bass player, just too bad he passed away when he did.

I don't know how you came to the conclusion that it was Dave that took Metallica to the heights of fame and success they've achieved, and you couldn't be more wrong about Dave 'creating' speed metal. Dave also didn't make 'everyone' get up off of their ass either, you give the man far, far too much credit.

I probably shouldn't even have taken time out of my day to reply to this, as I doubt you'll even be around again. Point is...

You're wrong.

Frownland 08-10-2015 10:14 AM

Weird thing is that Slayer makes them both look like pansies.

Mondo Bungle 08-10-2015 10:17 AM

Let's get it on Ripley's

Rattlehead44483 08-12-2015 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1624128)
I am positive that Metallica would have made it as big as they did even if Dave had never been a member in the first place, Dave was not by any stretch the muscle or brains in that band. Would I argue that he's a great guitar player? No. Dave is a great player. But he is not the reason that Metallica hit it big. Cliff Burton has always been the forefront of talent in Metallica, a brilliant bass player, just too bad he passed away when he did.

I don't know how you came to the conclusion that it was Dave that took Metallica to the heights of fame and success they've achieved, and you couldn't be more wrong about Dave 'creating' speed metal. Dave also didn't make 'everyone' get up off of their ass either, you give the man far, far too much credit.

I probably shouldn't even have taken time out of my day to reply to this, as I doubt you'll even be around again. Point is...

You're wrong.

Simple to why I come to that conclusion, Mustaine wrote a lot of the songs that came on their early albums, only album that Metallica did that Mustaine didn't have anything to do with that was at all tolerable was Justice, after that album Metallica tanked hardcore. And to this day Mustaine is still doing kick ass work and able to play what he writes. And yes, Megadeth was faster, louder and heavier then a lot of the bands out when they started, and the guitar solos in almost every song on every album starting from their first is why bands had to get off their asses.

look up "what other bands have to say about dave mustaine", its on youtube, watch and learn..

CoNtrivedNiHilism 08-12-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rattlehead44483 (Post 1624825)
Simple to why I come to that conclusion, Mustaine wrote a lot of the songs that came on their early albums, only album that Metallica did that Mustaine didn't have anything to do with that was at all tolerable was Justice, after that album Metallica tanked hardcore. And to this day Mustaine is still doing kick ass work and able to play what he writes. And yes, Megadeth was faster, louder and heavier then a lot of the bands out when they started, and the guitar solos in almost every song on every album starting from their first is why bands had to get off their asses.

look up "what other bands have to say about dave mustaine", its on youtube, watch and learn..

Not a thing I need to educate myself on in regard to Dave Mustaine, Metallica or their ticket to fame. I do think you're riding hard on Dave's cock though, bit much at that. He's written good music, but you talk about the guy like he's the be all end all of f*cking Metal. Furthermore, is the whole issue that you're using a video from YouTube to back your claim, real cute man. Who cares what a few musicians had to say about Dave and what he's accomplished. People say much more of Metallica.

Dave wrote music on the albums he was a part of, but hardly all of it, and at most some, but the amount he did write was nothing close to what you claim. I don't care who wrote heavier music, Metallica or Megadeth, doesn't f*cking matter here. Why don't you put credit where it is due and make mention of Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. The list of bands they influenced would go on for days. Metallica influenced plenty as well, Megadeth too. But it shows your ignorance or lack of factual knowledge when you claim that Dave Mustaine was responsible for getting musicians 'up off their ass' when Megadeth came about.

Hilarious dude.

Sauerkraut 08-12-2015 09:47 AM

In my opinion it will always be Metallica.

The Batlord 08-12-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1624917)
Not a thing I need to educate myself on in regard to Dave Mustaine, Metallica or their ticket to fame. I do think you're riding hard on Dave's cock though, bit much at that. He's written good music, but you talk about the guy like he's the be all end all of f*cking Metal. Furthermore, is the whole issue that you're using a video from YouTube to back your claim, real cute man. Who cares what a few musicians had to say about Dave and what he's accomplished. People say much more of Metallica.

Dave wrote music on the albums he was a part of, but hardly all of it, and at most some, but the amount he did write was nothing close to what you claim. I don't care who wrote heavier music, Metallica or Megadeth, doesn't f*cking matter here. Why don't you put credit where it is due and make mention of Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. The list of bands they influenced would go on for days. Metallica influenced plenty as well, Megadeth too. But it shows your ignorance or lack of factual knowledge when you claim that Dave Mustaine was responsible for getting musicians 'up off their ass' when Megadeth came about.

Hilarious dude.


When you consider that Dave basically taught James how to play, then it's arguable that he was pretty influential in thrash, even before Megadeth.

Of course when you hear Dave talk about it, he pretty much claims to have taught all three of the other three Big Four bands everything they knew. (Kerry King was a member of Megadeth sometime before they released their first album, and when Metallica went to New York, Anthrax got influenced by them.) It's hilarious to listen to Dave Mustaine to talk about himself at length.

Frownland 08-12-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1624969)
he pretty much claims to have all three of the other three Big Four bands everything they knew.

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The Batlord 08-12-2015 10:48 AM

I don't know what you're talking about.

Frownland 08-12-2015 10:57 AM

You post-editing bastard.


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