Slayer vs Metallica

jackhammer · 06-05-2010, 06:23 PM

Two different bands. Slayer still stay close to their roots and have a much purer sound but Metallica still did more in 3 years than Slayer have done in 25 years.

Everything changed when Cliff died for Metallica and I genuinely believe that they could have been the greatest metal band on the planet and still influenced countless bands.

In terms of staying within a particular sound and defining it then Slayer win hands down. As for shaping Metal and really twisting the genre on the head then Metallica WERE the band.

Dr_Rez · 06-06-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Two different bands. Slayer still stay close to their roots and have a much purer sound but Metallica still did more in 3 years than Slayer have done in 25 years.

I actually feel the Metallica's death Magnetic was more of a return to there roots.

William_the_Bloody · 07-03-2014, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Two different bands. Slayer still stay close to their roots and have a much purer sound but Metallica still did more in 3 years than Slayer have done in 25 years.

Everything changed when Cliff died for Metallica and I genuinely believe that they could have been the greatest metal band on the planet and still influenced countless bands.

I think Mr. J hit the nail on the head here. I can't see anything by Slayer (Reign in Blood included) matching Metallica's first three albums, but after Cliff died they went South.

If all the members of Metallica had died in that bus accident they would have been immortalized and we wouldn't be having this conversation, but as it stands today, Metallica sucks ass.

BastardofYoung · 07-03-2014, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I think Mr. J hit the nail on the head here. I can't see anything by Slayer (Reign in Blood included) matching Metallica's first three albums, but after Cliff died they went South.

If all the members of Metallica had died in that bus accident they would have been immortalized and we wouldn't be having this conversation, but as it stands today, Metallica sucks ass.

... of Heaven!

**Janszoon** · 07-03-2014, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I think Mr. J hit the nail on the head here. I can't see anything by Slayer (Reign in Blood included) matching Metallica's first three albums, but after Cliff died they went South.

If all the members of Metallica had died in that bus accident they would have been immortalized and we wouldn't be having this conversation, but as it stands today, Metallica sucks ass.

I agree with the second paragraph but the first? Not so much. K'EM isn't even as good as some of Slayer's lesser efforts and RTL and MOP, while excellent albums, still have their flaws and can't even touch Reign in Blood or Seasons in the Abyss.

William_the_Bloody · 07-03-2014, 04:12 PM

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I agree with the second paragraph but the first? Not so much. K'EM isn't even as good as some of Slayer's lesser efforts and RTL and MOP, while excellent albums, still have their flaws and can't even touch Reign in Blood or Seasons in the Abyss.

Oh Janzoon, there is a reason why Master of Puppets is continually cited as the best metal album ever made,while Reign in Blood often pops up between spots 5 and 10.

As for Kill em All, you will never find a bigger advocate of that album on MB than me. The whole thing from start to finish is packed with gripping harmonic guitar riffs. I personally think it walks all over Slayer's Show No Mercy and is a testament of the natural gifted song writing Metallica possessed from the get go.

But it appears Cliff Burton was as important to Metallica as Bon Scott was to AC/DC, so now this debate rages on, early Metallica however, will always be uno numero for me.

Wpnfire · 07-03-2014, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Oh Janzoon, there is a reason why Master of Puppets is continually cited as the best metal album ever made,while Reign in Blood often pops up between spots 5 and 10.

As for Kill em All, you will never find a bigger advocate of that album on MB than me. The whole thing from start to finish is packed with gripping harmonic guitar riffs. I personally think it walks all over Slayer's Show No Mercy and is a testament of the natural gifted song writing Metallica possessed from the get go.

But it appears Cliff Burton was as important to Metallica as Bon Scott was to AC/DC, so now this debate rages on, early Metallica however, will always be uno numero for me.

While I agree that KEA is the better album, it's really close for me. I definitely disagree that KEA "walks all over Slayer's Show No Mercy."
The thing that makes KEA better is, indeed, the songwriting, which is what tips the scales.

Second of all, I don't understand how you can notice the riffs in KEA and not notice the riffs in Show No Mercy. I just mentioned this in my journal but Metal Storm / Face The Slayer has like 4 different riffs in the song and is way better than any riff from KEA. Hell, Black Magic's riff is better than any riff from KEA.

**Janszoon** · 07-04-2014, 12:18 AM

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Oh Janzoon, there is a reason why Master of Puppets is continually cited as the best metal album ever made,while Reign in Blood often pops up between spots 5 and 10.

I guess it all depends on who does the citing. I like Master of Puppets a lot, but 9 times out of 10 I'd much rather listen to Reign in Blood.

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As for Kill em All, you will never find a bigger advocate of that album on MB than me. The whole thing from start to finish is packed with gripping harmonic guitar riffs. I personally think it walks all over Slayer's Show No Mercy and is a testament of the natural gifted song writing Metallica possessed from the get go.

Honestly, I find Kill 'Em All kind of a tough slog. I'll listen to a little bit then get bored.

BastardofYoung · 07-04-2014, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Oh Janzoon, there is a reason why Master of Puppets is continually cited as the best metal album ever made,while Reign in Blood often pops up between spots 5 and 10.

As for Kill em All, you will never find a bigger advocate of that album on MB than me. The whole thing from start to finish is packed with gripping harmonic guitar riffs. I personally think it walks all over Slayer's Show No Mercy and is a testament of the natural gifted song writing Metallica possessed from the get go.

But it appears Cliff Burton was as important to Metallica as Bon Scott was to AC/DC, so now this debate rages on, early Metallica however, will always be uno numero for me.

I do not know what lists you are looking at, but I often see them hand in hand. I have never seen a list (not counting rateyourmusic or whatever else) where anyone who is seriously into Thrash would rank RiB half way to the end.

Usually those 2 albums compete for top spot.

Musicfanatic · 07-09-2014, 12:18 PM

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As for Kill em All, you will never find a bigger advocate of that album on MB than me.

What about me, huh?

That is my favorite album, period! And I hate to say "period"!

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