Slayer vs Metallica

**Janszoon** · 04-20-2012, 09:17 AM

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I like easter eggs, so all I have to do is cut and paste The Batlord's egg and send it to Pedestrian, or am I too late?

Honestly, I haven't been following it and don't know exactly how it works, but I assume Pedestrian explained the rules in the OP of the thread I just linked to.

mr dave · 04-20-2012, 09:26 AM

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Really? Maybe we're talking about two different things here, but Dave Lombardo is one the main reasons I listen to Slayer. His drumming is far more interesting to me than 99.9% of Slayer's contemporaries.

I think we're on opposite sides of the same coin. I enjoy Lombardo's drumming as well, he's the reason I didn't completely nod off when I saw them. It's the underlying rhythmic structure that I find repetitious. Not specifically what he plays but the groove upon which they all play.

The easiest comparison I can make is like old country / bluegrass stuff. The underlying beat is predominantly a tick / tock - bomp / bump - square beat. There's little to no syncopation in the rhythm, it's a very basic structure. Good players are able to play around that beat in such a way that it become secondary, no one is actively playing that beat but everyone is feeling it and adding their own element to it. Basically, Slayer's rhythmic structures always seem to divide evenly, and by the same respect they're good enough to play over it in such a way that most people don't notice.

I forget the proper term but in visual arts it's like drawing a subject by sketching the shadows around it so that the viewer recognizes it by what isn't represented on the paper.

**Janszoon** · 04-20-2012, 09:40 AM

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I think we're on opposite sides of the same coin. I enjoy Lombardo's drumming as well, he's the reason I didn't completely nod off when I saw them. It's the underlying rhythmic structure that I find repetitious. Not specifically what he plays but the groove upon which they all play.

The easiest comparison I can make is like old country / bluegrass stuff. The underlying beat is predominantly a tick / tock - bomp / bump - square beat. There's little to no syncopation in the rhythm, it's a very basic structure. Good players are able to play around that beat in such a way that it become secondary, no one is actively playing that beat but everyone is feeling it and adding their own element to it. Basically, Slayer's rhythmic structures always seem to divide evenly, and by the same respect they're good enough to play over it in such a way that most people don't notice.

I forget the proper term but in visual arts it's like drawing a subject by sketching the shadows around it so that the viewer recognizes it by what isn't represented on the paper.

Ah, okay, I see what you're getting at now. I suppose there is sort of a "Slayer groove" but it's part of what makes Slayer what they are. To me what they do within that framework is so appealing to my ears that I focus on the shading, not the box, just like I do with good bluegrass.

mr dave · 04-20-2012, 09:47 AM

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Ah, okay, I see what you're getting at now. I suppose there is sort of a "Slayer groove" but it's part of what makes Slayer what they are. To me what they do within that framework is so appealing to my ears that I focus on the shading, not the box, just like I do with good bluegrass.

Cool

I think in my case I'm stuck comparing them to both Testament and Megadeth who put on excellent sets with a lot more dynamic diversity so I couldn't help but notice how Slayer was, not necessarily basic or simple, but they just lack that je ne sais quoi to move them up from really good to effing great in my head.

**Janszoon** · 04-20-2012, 09:55 AM

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Cool

I think in my case I'm stuck comparing them to both Testament and Megadeth who put on excellent sets with a lot more dynamic diversity so I couldn't help but notice how Slayer was, not necessarily basic or simple, but they just lack that je ne sais quoi to move them up from really good to effing great in my head.

Did you see them all on the same bill or something? I've seen Slayer and Megadeth live (though not Testament unfortunately) but the situations I saw them in were so different that it's hard to make a very good comparison between them, though both put on very good shows. I will say though that I much prefer Slayer albums to Megadeth albums.

mr dave · 04-20-2012, 10:07 AM

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Did you see them all on the same bill or something? I've seen Slayer and Megadeth live (though not Testament unfortunately) but the situations I saw them in were so different that it's hard to make a very good comparison between them, though both put on very good shows. I will say though that I much prefer Slayer albums to Megadeth albums.

Yep, they were making up for a cancelled show due to some surgery with one of the guys in Slayer (think it was Tom Araya). Both Megadeth and Slayer performed classic albums in their entirety, Rust in Peace and Seasons in the Abyss respectively. It was a great show all around, but looking back I think Megadeth would have been a better ender.

The Batlord · 04-20-2012, 10:21 AM

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Yep, they were making up for a cancelled show due to some surgery with one of the guys in Slayer (think it was Tom Araya). Both Megadeth and Slayer performed classic albums in their entirety, Rust in Peace and Seasons in the Abyss respectively. It was a great show all around, but looking back I think Megadeth would have been a better ender.

Of course, Rust In Piece is god-like. Only Megadeth could make a metal song about breaking up with some chick not sound lame.

**Janszoon** · 04-20-2012, 10:25 AM

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Of course, Rust In Piece is god-like. Only Megadeth could make a metal song about breaking up with some chick not sound lame.

Haha, I think we're going have to agree to disagree on that one.

The Batlord · 04-20-2012, 10:41 AM

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Haha, I think we're going have to agree to disagree on that one.

daviddouglas · 04-20-2012, 10:47 AM

I'm gonna have to go with Metallica... Sorry Slayer!

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