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Drjohnrock 03-21-2025 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cellamaster (Post 2241264)
Maybe The Saints invented punk. Their first single (I'm) Stranded came out a couple of months before Anarchy in the U.K. anyway

They’re a contender, for sure, although the term “punk” started showing up in rock magazines around 1974. I don’t think we’ll ever come up with an originator everyone will agree on. But the discussion is fun.

Psy-Fi 03-22-2025 02:37 PM

I don't think this band has ever been mentioned in this thread, so here they are...




Was Punk Rock Born in Peru? - Los Saicos - Noisey Specials

Buckeye Randy 03-23-2025 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Drjohnrock (Post 2241266)
I don’t think we’ll ever come up with an originator everyone will agree on. But the discussion is fun.

I think a fun conversation would be who isn't punk. Fun because no two people have the same criteria, it's a moving target.

The Velvet Underground are many things but punk is not one of them. I get the point people are making when they say garage rock morphed into punk. I don't deny that The Velvet Underground had a garage quality but they branched it into art or one might say avant garde. It's like a family tree of hominids, you don't find a human at the end of every branch.

Singing street poetry about addiction does not a punk make leads us straight to Patti Smith. She hung out with some bonafide punks and she is much closer to punk than The Velvet Underground but music is mostly a vehicle for her poetic art.

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Television can be poetic and arty but they are first and foremost a kick ass band. I'm not arguing that they are the first but they are certainly punk.


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