I`d rather listen to The Damned than the Pistols anyday

i have a new found love for the buzz****s. but damned damned damned is just as good as nevermind the bollocks in my opinion.

i love the name of this thread.......:rofl:

For misfitspunk......The ramones was around before the sex pistols and the sex pistols were around before the damned. I voted for the sex pistols beens at the time they influence alot more punks than the the ramones, plus the pistols are tons better.

I'd much rather listen to the Buzzc*cks and the Damned over the Pistols or the Clash.

Lol your putting words into my mouth i said the ramones were around before any of them and i know the damned weren't around before the pistols cause their first gig was opening for the pistols..

EARLY PUNK SIGHTING!

"People try to put us down
Just because we get around
Things they do look awful cold
Yeah, I hope I die before I get old

This is my generation
This is my generation, baby"

Sounds pretty punk to me. 1965...

The Who, Stooges, New York Dolls: forefathers of punk
Ramones: when punk became punk
The Sex Pistols and Clash: don't count because neither were punk. The Clash were straight-up rock-and-roll with the occasional worldbeat influence, and the Sex Pistols were a boy band assembled by a fashion designer.

Biased opinion don't lie...

I say Iggy pop and the stooges,

MC5 were out before iggy and the stooges with kick out the jams though.
but i dont think either were really punk i think it was more proto punk like patti smith and the who and i dont think punk was really created with one band it was kinda evolved.Cause the ramones and clash and stuff were influenced by new york dolls and iggy and MC5.But they werent really punky and they were influenced by the who and such who were influenced by blues artist and so on and so on i think it was more of an evloution than anything.

yeah, It gets hard to see where one genre ends and another begins.

Let's take The Who's attitude + The Stooges sound & Iggyness.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...nter/EGG02.png

I'm not sure who invented punk, but shouldn't that be under punk and not rock & heavy metal.

Oh wait, I've got it...

In the 50's a mad scientist with crazy hair invented it as a tool against awesome Prog/Art Rock music. Fortunately, the man was arrested and his so called "Punk music" was kept under lock and key until Nixon, acting with some underlings, broke into the Watergate hotel and stole it. Soon the Vietnam war ended, and the "punk music" that Nixon stole was lost...then some local kids from the world found it and unleashed upon surprised coporate f[I]u[I]cks.

THE END FOREVER.

hahahhaha...



NO!

wait I think Zygo may be talking some sense

Yeah...and that's not even the half of it!

I'm sure

I forgot to incorporate the Russians & the beatnics.

whats the difference between The Russians and the beatniks?

Why don't you make a story james.

Well tend to try not to get off topic. i might right one in my own free time

ahem: Iggypop and the stooges begat the sex pistols who begat the clash, Etc.

I like how ya put Iggy Pop's name...into one name.


Iggypop!

(You have to say it really fast, and when you do it seems funny)

Iggypop!

sounds biblical.

Don't you love my new avatar?

I did a thread like this minus the poll and it got closed.

ya, threads like these tend to go down in flames rather quickly. I for one, dont think either of the two bands started punk. but as you see, this is why these threads dont work unless someone can actually come up with some hard evidence it gets nowhere.

Billy Joel, Roger Daltry and Iggy Pop

Neither, Punk was a movement than no one started directly...And besides, The New York Dolls, The Stooges and MC5 are punk and they were around before the ramones and the pistols, The Who were also a big influence on punk.

hmm...
velvet underground started in '65
stooges in '68
NY Dolls in '71
Sex Pistols in '72
Ramones '74

Ill leave it at that

i think its pretty safe to say he was refering to the music genre rather than the movement, I guess the term "punk rock" was coined by Dave Marsh (according to wikipedia) who was a rock critic and used it to describe "garage rock". but who knows, ive heard several differant stories as to who the first band considered "punk" was and how the term came to be.

We should judge it by sound....

I mean not the actual word punk.

When did MC5 start?

but then you get the argument of what "punk sound" is and isnt...
MC5 started in '66 - first album in '68

Yeah and alot of bands that 'started' punk..didnt really have punk fundamentals and style...

Well i would continue dicussiing.

But lunch is over and i need to go to school.

totally if this must be done the velvet underground

Personally i dont think they were really that punky..

They were a bigger influence on alternative rock than punk, though most post punk bands were VU influenced.

Yeah but if you go by who influenced it you could go like all the way to blues.

Cause ramones and clash and stuff were influenced by iggy and velvet underground who were influenced by the who and rolling stones who were influenced by etc...

i think i made this exact post somewhere else in this thread.

The Velvet Underground were more an influence on the art rock side of the punk movement, your Talking Heads , Television , Patti Smith types , and the British punks who went to art school (cept Lydon who hated them). If you want to get into the Velvet Underground expecting them to be an influnence on the 3 chord thrash type punk bands you are going to be very very disappointed.

well obviousley they not but they also had some avant garde

i think the #1 reason this topic gets so screwed is because there are so many differant ideas of what punk is.

Is it the sound? the look? the anti-everything attitude? lower-class? working-class?

there are probably a number of bands that can take the credit depending on what one would consider the foundation of punk is.