who invented punk

BastardofYoung · 04-08-2012, 02:20 AM

let me change that a bit:

If this thread [title] was, "who influence(d) the creation of punk", [then] I would say Link Wray is a contender. influence he may have had [on the style], but he did not "invent" the style in the slightest, his influence was in (on) rockabilly, not in (on) punk.

blastingas10 · 04-08-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by milano

This is the first time i've seen a dinosaur and a music genre in the same sentence being used as a legitimate argument.

(And that excludes the mention of T-Rex or Marc Bolan)

thank you.

Howard the Duck · 04-08-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by milano

This is the first time i've seen a dinosaur and a music genre in the same sentence being used as a legitimate argument.

(And that excludes the mention of T-Rex or Marc Bolan)

surely you're familiar with the term "dinosaur rock", which is a term coined by the punks about the old rock that was on its own way out, namely prog

blastingas10 · 04-08-2012, 12:22 PM

What about prog-punk? Is there such a thing? Im sure there is. I know The Velvet ungerground were around before punk was a term, but Id consider them a experimental or progressive punk band, if you want to consider them punk at all, I would. Although I think punk is a poor way to describe them. Punk was kind of a regressive genre when you consider The VU and a band like The Sex Pistols, the genre was certainly moving backwards.

Howard the Duck · 04-08-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

What about prog-punk? Is there such a thing? Im sure there is. I know The Velvet ungerground were around before punk was a term, but Id consider them a experimental or progressive punk band, if you want to consider them punk at all, I would. Although I think punk is a poor way to describe them. Punk was kind of a regressive genre when you consider The VU and a band like The Sex Pistols, the genre was certainly moving backwards.

there is - The Cardiacs would play something akin to a cross between prog and punk

Unknown Soldier · 04-08-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Punk was kind of a regressive genre when you consider The VU and a band like The Sex Pistols, the genre was certainly moving backwards.

Based on this logic, the VU hardly qualify as being punk.

TockTockTock · 04-08-2012, 01:48 PM

I think they're closer to alternative rock than to punk anyways...

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Originally Posted by Badlittlekitten

The Modern Lovers

These guys, too.

BastardofYoung · 04-08-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

What about prog-punk? Is there such a thing?Im sure there is. I know The Velvet ungerground were around before punk was a term, but Id consider them a experimental or progressive punk band, if you want to consider them punk at all, I would. Although I think punk is a poor way to describe them. Punk was kind of a regressive genre when you consider The VU and a band like The Sex Pistols, the genre was certainly moving backwards.

Unknown Soldier · 04-08-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

I think they're closer to alternative rock than to punk anyways...

These guys, too.

Agreed, like most of these types of threads we end up getting a whole host of people that get linked in with inventing the genre, I've seen people such as Link Wray and Woodie Guthrie getting mentioned on here, if we're mentioning artists like this, we might as well be mentioning artists like Elvis Presley, Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Doors, Alice Cooper and Roxy Music etc in fact the list is endless and gets to the stage of where does it end, as all of the above have influenced so many different genres. Punk was only partly music, it was also about image and I don't think enough people on here have taken this into consideration, I'm old enough to just remember the punk explosion in London in 1977 and the posturing and style of some of the above artists was essential to the movement and image was everything! As far as I'm concerned, a movement is only REALLY invented when all the key components come together and that was in 1976/1977 with bands like the Ramones, Sex Pistols, the Damned, the Saints, Dead Boys, Blondie, Stranglers and the Clash to name some. The only band before any of these, that I'd consider to have all the ingedients of being punk were Iggy and the Stooges and for that reason they're proto-punk.

Unknown Soldier · 04-08-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

You're determined to push this band, anyway how can punk really be prog, half the fuckers can't even play their instruments properly

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	let me change that a bit: If this thread [title] was, "who influence(d) the creation of punk", [then] I would say Link Wray is a contender. influence he may have had [on the style], but he did not "invent" the style in the slightest, his influence was in (on) rockabilly, not in (on) punk. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	What about prog-punk? Is there such a thing? Im sure there is. I know The Velvet ungerground were around before punk was a term, but Id consider them a experimental or progressive punk band, if you want to consider them punk at all, I would. Although I think punk is a poor way to describe them. Punk was kind of a regressive genre when you consider The VU and a band like The Sex Pistols, the genre was certainly moving backwards.