who invented punk

Howard the Duck · 04-03-2012, 03:34 AM

"Jesus" should be added as a poll option

BastardofYoung · 04-07-2012, 10:54 PM

Link Wray had nothing to do with punk no matter what you say, get over it. Just cause some random critic thinks it's true, doesnt make it so.

Now, let's find someone who was an actual punk, not just someone who got called one cause they had a similar attitude that would be part of punk.

midnight rain · 04-07-2012, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

Link Wray had nothing to do with punk no matter what you say, get over it. Just cause some random critic thinks it's true, doesnt make it so.

Now, let's find someone who was an actual punk, not just someone who got called one cause they had a similar attitude that would be part of punk.

Which is what you are, so I guess what you think is true, doesn't make it so.

BastardofYoung · 04-07-2012, 11:25 PM

No, I am right on this one.

There was no such thing as punk when Link Wray started. You may credit him with rockabilly, but not punk.

I stated my reasons long ago in this thread.

Link Wray is not punk, and your comment is pointless.

Further more, the citation given isn't even linked. So doesn't count as a citation.

TockTockTock · 04-07-2012, 11:26 PM

Uhg, when will this thread die?

As I stated before:

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

I suppose you could consider its coming about as a "group effort." Many bands were highly influential to punk rock's evolution in sound, such as: The Who, The Sonics, The Monks, The Velvet Underground, MC5, New York Dolls, Iggy and the Stooges, and possibly The Kinks. Hell... I've seen people mention Johnny Cash, Bob Dylan, and Woody Guthrie a few times.

Honestly, I feel this debate is just going in circles... The same bands and the same people keep being listed over and over again (it's not really going anywhere). Of course, I'm guilty of continuing it...

BastardofYoung · 04-07-2012, 11:27 PM

When people stop thinking Woodie Guthrie, Phil Ochs, Link Wray and Ghandi are punk.

TockTockTock · 04-07-2012, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

When people stop thinking Woodie Guthrie, Phil Ochs, Link Wray and Ghandi are punk.

Let it go.

BastardofYoung · 04-07-2012, 11:41 PM

never. i will stand by my view to the end.

This is a punk thread, there is no letting go.

BastardofYoung · 04-07-2012, 11:42 PM

why is this in rock and metal anyways? someone move this thread to the right forum.

blastingas10 · 04-07-2012, 11:48 PM

Just because the term "punk" wasn't coined yet doesn't mean any of those guys weren't punk. It's like saying a T-Rex wasnt a T-Rex because nobody was there to call it that. One thing is for certain, it was still what we know as a dinosaur, regardless of what we call it. And that's what people like link ray were, pre-historic punks that roamed the land before anyone was calling It "punk".

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04-07-2012, 10:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Link Wray had nothing to do with punk no matter what you say, get over it. Just cause some random critic thinks it's true, doesnt make it so. Now, let's find someone who was an actual punk, not just someone who got called one cause they had a similar attitude that would be part of punk. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

04-07-2012, 11:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	No, I am right on this one. There was no such thing as punk when Link Wray started. You may credit him with rockabilly, but not punk. I stated my reasons long ago in this thread. Link Wray is not punk, and your comment is pointless. Further more, the citation given isn't even linked. So doesn't count as a citation. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

04-07-2012, 11:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	When people stop thinking Woodie Guthrie, Phil Ochs, Link Wray and Ghandi are punk. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

04-07-2012, 11:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	never. i will stand by my view to the end. This is a punk thread, there is no letting go. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

04-07-2012, 11:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	why is this in rock and metal anyways? someone move this thread to the right forum. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

04-07-2012, 11:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Just because the term "punk" wasn't coined yet doesn't mean any of those guys weren't punk. It's like saying a T-Rex wasnt a T-Rex because nobody was there to call it that. One thing is for certain, it was still what we know as a dinosaur, regardless of what we call it. And that's what people like link ray were, pre-historic punks that roamed the land before anyone was calling It "punk".