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Sansa Stark 06-17-2011 09:30 AM

You like d-beat, every band simultaneously sounds like the same **** band while still sounding nothing like Discharge

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TockTockTock 06-17-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1072464)


Let's see

Anti Hippy - Check
Anti establishment - Check
Recorded in 1967 pre-dating both the MC5 and the Stooges - Check
Actually called a 'Punk' band at the time they were around, not just some band that just had 3 chords or had a bit of guitar feedback thus sounding a 'bit' punkish - Check


I win the thread.

I remember you mentioning them before... I just think it's unfair to attribute only one band to the creation of an entire genre of music (especially punk rock).

I suppose you could consider its coming about as a "group effort." Many bands were highly influential to punk rock's evolution in sound, such as: The Who, The Sonics, The Monks, The Velvet Underground, MC5, New York Dolls, Iggy and the Stooges, and possibly The Kinks. Hell... I've seen people mention Johnny Cash, Bob Dylan, and Woody Guthrie a few times.

Honestly, I feel this debate is just going in circles... The same bands and the same people keep being listed over and over again (it's not really going anywhere). Of course, I'm guilty of continuing it...

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-17-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1072471)
I remember you mentioning them before... I just think it's unfair to attribute only one band to the creation of an entire genre of music (especially punk rock).

So do I, I just want to win on the internet :thumb:

FRED HALE SR. 06-17-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 1072470)
You like d-beat, every band simultaneously sounds like the same **** band while still sounding nothing like Discharge

I don't believe that for a second. There are so many varied sounding bands in the d-beat genre. Disorder sounds nothing like the Varukers, who sound nothing like skitsystem who sounds nothing like Disclose and so on. There are tons of bands from various countries that make up D-beat from Brazil to Spain to Italy and on to Japan.

You clearly don't like the genre, but D-beat isn't made up of one universal sound that all bands sound like. I love D-BEAT, its one of the most energetic and raw sounding genres that ever existed.

TockTockTock 06-17-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1072480)
I don't believe that for a second. There are so many varied sounding bands in the d-beat genre. Disorder sounds nothing like the Varukers, who sound nothing like skitsystem who sounds nothing like Disclose and so on. There are tons of bands from various countries that make up D-beat from Brazil to Spain to Italy and on to Japan.

You clearly don't like the genre, but D-beat isn't made up of one universal sound that all bands sound like. I love D-BEAT, its one of the most energetic and raw sounding genres that ever existed.



These two videos are much more "energetic and raw" than anything d-beat will ever throw out. The strange thing is is that both songs were written and recorded in the 70s (although, not that particular version of "Discipline," which was filmed/recorded in 1980). Also, Paloma is right... d-beat bands are extremely similar to each other. It's very hard to differentiate them.

Not trying to gang up on you, though. I'm just expressing my opinion (don't take it personally).

FRED HALE SR. 06-17-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1072488)


These two videos are much more "energetic and raw" than anything d-beat will ever throw out. Also, Paloma is right... d-beat bands are extremely similar to each other. It's very hard to differentiate them.

Not trying to gang up on you though. I'm just expressing my opinion (don't take it personally).

Those two videos are ok. I prefer Throbbing Gristle. I don't see anything that blows me away more than DOOM or DISCHARGE. Its not hard for me to differentiate. I never take anything personally, its your opinion and its wrong. :rofl: <------ joking

Unknown Soldier 06-17-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat (Post 1072471)
Honestly, I feel this debate is just going in circles... The same bands and the same people keep being listed over and over again (it's not really going anywhere

The above perfectly sums up punk!

I don`t like punk but hell even I know the first proper punk group were Los Saicos from Peru who were playing punk music circa 1964!

Necromancer 06-17-2011 12:48 PM

I was never a fan of the punk genre, but the 90s grunge era brought the influence of punk more to my attention. I watched a documentary on TV a week or so ago concerning the Chicago punk scene, The Effigies and so on. Interesting, to say the least, with some music worth giving a listen to.

BastardofYoung 06-17-2011 12:58 PM

favorite band to come from the Chicago scene = Articles of Faith

Ellington 06-18-2011 08:56 AM

I don't know who invented it, but the farthest I've been able to trace it back is to the early work of The Kinks in 1964.


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