who invented punk

Howard the Duck · 06-17-2011, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ron

the who invented punk

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

That's an interesting concept, if you consider Keith Moon's style especially. Defiantly a major influence.

i said several pages ago that The Kinks and The Who invented punk

nobody took me seriously much

BastardofYoung · 06-17-2011, 02:38 AM

I would debate it simply on the basis that at the time The Who did my genration, punk did not exsist. It was not even in the back of any minds, so they would not be sitting around saying "let's write a punk song"...

If looking at people I think might of been the early inspirations for the punk ethos, I could say Wood Guthrie was one, This Machine Kills Facists. Johnny Cash, his attitude could be seen as punk as well... Blues and Folk artists are like punks.

However, saying any of those people invented punk is no more true than saying it was The Who or The Kinks.

Punk and Punk Rock are different I feel, Johnny Cash did not play punk rock, but he embodied what could be labeled as punk. Woody Guthrie, Phil Ochs... writing protest songs... this could be an inspiration for punk, but that is still folk.

Really not easy to say who invented punk... Punk was almost born unto itself.

The answer depends on you define punk, and each one may be different...

BastardofYoung · 06-17-2011, 02:50 AM

also, listen to this album:

Here Are The Sonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If anything I would suspect punk rock would of taken more influence from Garage Rock even before "My Generation".

Come on "Surfin' Bird" is more in debt to punk.

Than after that you get "My Generation" and British Invasion.

Batty · 06-17-2011, 03:09 AM

I was gonna say Iggy Pop or Lou Reed

BastardofYoung · 06-17-2011, 03:11 AM

They had a part as well. MC5 as well... though none of them "Invented it", but they did help it move forward.

Captain Ron · 06-17-2011, 06:34 AM

the kinks might have invented hard rock but not punk. you really got me is a love song, my generation is a punk rock song. it's the attitude

Badlittlekitten · 06-17-2011, 07:52 AM

The Modern Lovers

Howard the Duck · 06-17-2011, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ron

the kinks might have invented hard rock but not punk. you really got me is a love song, my generation is a punk rock song. it's the attitude

i'm thinking of musically and not lyrically

You Really Got Me is a basic 2-chord song with some gnarly distortion

I Can't Explain is the same 4-chords repeated over and over again

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-17-2011, 10:14 AM

Let's see

Anti Hippy - Check
Anti establishment - Check
Recorded in 1967 pre-dating both the MC5 and the Stooges - Check
Actually called a 'Punk' band at the time they were around, not just some band that just had 3 chords or had a bit of guitar feedback thus sounding a 'bit' punkish - Check

I win the thread.

FRED HALE SR. · 06-17-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

I'm not a fan of d-beat at all,no.

You continually amaze me with your poor taste.

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06-17-2011, 02:38 AM	#182 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	I would debate it simply on the basis that at the time The Who did my genration, punk did not exsist. It was not even in the back of any minds, so they would not be sitting around saying "let's write a punk song"... If looking at people I think might of been the early inspirations for the punk ethos, I could say Wood Guthrie was one, This Machine Kills Facists. Johnny Cash, his attitude could be seen as punk as well... Blues and Folk artists are like punks. However, saying any of those people invented punk is no more true than saying it was The Who or The Kinks. Punk and Punk Rock are different I feel, Johnny Cash did not play punk rock, but he embodied what could be labeled as punk. Woody Guthrie, Phil Ochs... writing protest songs... this could be an inspiration for punk, but that is still folk. Really not easy to say who invented punk... Punk was almost born unto itself. The answer depends on you define punk, and each one may be different... __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

06-17-2011, 02:50 AM	#183 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	also, listen to this album: Here Are The Sonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia If anything I would suspect punk rock would of taken more influence from Garage Rock even before "My Generation". Come on "Surfin' Bird" is more in debt to punk. Than after that you get "My Generation" and British Invasion. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

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06-17-2011, 03:11 AM	#185 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	They had a part as well. MC5 as well... though none of them "Invented it", but they did help it move forward. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

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Captain Ron Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: in a boat with your girlfriend Posts: 274	the kinks might have invented hard rock but not punk. you really got me is a love song, my generation is a punk rock song. it's the attitude

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06-17-2011, 10:14 AM	#189 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Let's see Anti Hippy - Check Anti establishment - Check Recorded in 1967 pre-dating both the MC5 and the Stooges - Check Actually called a 'Punk' band at the time they were around, not just some band that just had 3 chords or had a bit of guitar feedback thus sounding a 'bit' punkish - Check I win the thread. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.