AFI i know its in the wrong catergory but....the head singer is he really G A Y (lead singer, guitarist)

kornslayer · 02-18-2005, 10:57 AM

guys tell me is he G A Y or not if he is thats shocking to me for some odd reason.

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 02-18-2005, 11:51 AM

Nope, dont think so. Wierd question though... Youre gonna get a sh*t load of abuse from people y'know, they're gonna think you were judging him because of it. (Which im guessing youre not)

riseagainstrocks · 02-18-2005, 01:45 PM

metrosexual. Jade the guitarist is g ay. although I'm not davey's biggest fan, i respect his voice like woah.

TheBig3 · 02-18-2005, 01:53 PM

You should get ****loads of abuse for it. Because no one should be judged for something if they aren't judged for the opposite. Example:

"Does anyone know if Prince is strait? I don't know man he looks pretty hetero to me...I'll bet that straity lets chicks sucks his ****. I don't know its just weird man, thoughts?"

See it sounds moronic, and so did your question.

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 02-18-2005, 02:02 PM

Calm down, we dont even know if he was judging or just curious. At least give him a chance, he hasnt said anything against g.ays yet has he...

TheBig3 · 02-18-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance

Calm down, we dont even know if he was judging or just curious. At least give him a chance, he hasnt said anything against g.ays yet has he...

No he hasn't said they are inherently evil yet, but you can't just let me subgroup others or segregate them from the mass populous. In fact, doing so is one of the 8 stages of genocide, created by the UN after WWII. To seperate is to catagorize, and to catagorize is to label. I believe the document would call this classification, and allowing it is to allow it to foster.

The bottom line is, Homosexuals aren't any diffrent that anyone else, and so what does it matter if a lead singer is *** or not.

Thats my question for further argument, What does it matter?

Soundgardener · 02-18-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Thats my question for further argument, What does it matter?

It doesnt, him being *** doesnt make him a worse or better singer....

end of discussion.

riseagainstrocks · 02-19-2005, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

No he hasn't said they are inherently evil yet, but you can't just let me subgroup others or segregate them from the mass populous. In fact, doing so is one of the 8 stages of genocide, created by the UN after WWII. To seperate is to catagorize, and to catagorize is to label. I believe the document would call this classification, and allowing it is to allow it to foster.

Classification is only a step in the 8 steps of Genocide if it is State sponsered. And by your reasoning than calling someone a teacher is classification and the first step to a genocide. Most g ay people are very open about it and "wear it on their sleeves". Besides homosexuals are gaining more and more political momentum. Quite unlike the Jews during the holocaust or the Tutsis during Rwanda.

TheBig3 · 02-19-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

Classification is only a step in the 8 steps of Genocide if it is State sponsered. And by your reasoning than calling someone a teacher is classification and the first step to a genocide. Most g ay people are very open about it and "wear it on their sleeves". Besides homosexuals are gaining more and more political momentum. Quite unlike the Jews during the holocaust or the Tutsis during Rwanda.

Rise Against would be real proud. It doesn't have to be state sponsored. The genocide that is currently occuring in Dafur is genocide but is in no way state sponsored.

Also, no calling a teacher a teacher isn't classification because its an occupation (and you clearly don't care about the issue because your just reaching with this argument). And you obviously know nothing about history because they jews had immence clout prior to the nazi party accending to power.

Please don't try to "win" this argument, because your spitting on an entire sub group of humans. Try to keep this kind of hate off the boards and try to stick with hating people because they listen to suck music.

riseagainstrocks · 02-20-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Rise Against would be real proud. It doesn't have to be state sponsored. The genocide that is currently occuring in Dafur is genocide but is in no way state sponsored.

Also, no calling a teacher a teacher isn't classification because its an occupation (and you clearly don't care about the issue because your just reaching with this argument). And you obviously know nothing about history because they jews had immence clout prior to the nazi party accending to power.

Please don't try to "win" this argument, because your spitting on an entire sub group of humans. Try to keep this kind of hate off the boards and try to stick with hating people because they listen to suck music.

First off, I like Rise Against's non-political songs. Second off while teaching is an occupation it is also a group of people which is what your entire arguement is based off. And the you don't know your history at all. The Jews were heavily persecuted from roughly 1830 to 1870. from 1870 to the very early 1900's they had a higher standard of living than before in Western Europe. Then came WWI this took away almost all of the Jews rights because it was believed that the Jews were aiding and abieting both Allied and Central powers. In Germany following WWI when the German people were in the one of the worst post-Bismarck depressions they had ever faced. The Jews being mostly bankers and economist and doctors, took the brunt of the angry backlash. This lead to a platform of hatred put forth by the National Socialist Party (Nazi party).

I'm am appalled that you would compare what is being described as a "lack of homosexual rights" to the holocaust (marriage isn't a right but thats a different discussion). I have several *** friends and am not trying to win an arguement. I'm a merely stating that this is in no way similar to genocide.

02-18-2005, 10:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
kornslayer Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 80	AFI i know its in the wrong catergory but....the head singer is he really G A Y guys tell me is he G A Y or not if he is thats shocking to me for some odd reason.

02-18-2005, 11:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,528	Nope, dont think so. Wierd question though... Youre gonna get a sh*t load of abuse from people y'know, they're gonna think you were judging him because of it. (Which im guessing youre not) __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

02-18-2005, 01:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,297	metrosexual. Jade the guitarist is g ay. although I'm not davey's biggest fan, i respect his voice like woah. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

02-18-2005, 01:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,246	You should get **loads of abuse for it. Because no one should be judged for something if they aren't judged for the opposite. Example: "Does anyone know if Prince is strait? I don't know man he looks pretty hetero to me...I'll bet that straity lets chicks sucks his **. I don't know its just weird man, thoughts?" See it sounds moronic, and so did your question. __________________ I've moved to a new address

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ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,528	Calm down, we dont even know if he was judging or just curious. At least give him a chance, he hasnt said anything against g.ays yet has he... __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!