i'd be interested in hearing a bit more from this band. obviously they were before my time and i never really acclimated myself to that side of the musical spectrum. i have The Land of Rape and Honey but sadly i could never get into it.

Well that's one of their two best albums so if you don't like it, you probably don't like Ministry. I have to say I'm a little surprised to hear that from a Foetus fan like yourself though. If you want to give them another shot, check out The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste. It's their other best album but with a somewhat different sound from Land Of Rape And Honey.

Lol, fined for cruising? Maybe they just have too many teens crowding up the streets doing nothing but driving slow, pimping their rides. :p: It is definitely nice and interesting for a suburb. I did like the downtown a lot. I guess it's just that it's older than most suburbs, so it has more historic buildings etc. than the average suburb. From what I hear it's really a hot spot now (probably for the past 10+ years) and pretty pricey. Lots of condos and such whereas when I lived there (aside from the downtown) it was a very single-family home type of place.

Anyway. Ministry! As Janszoon said above, if one doesn't like The Land Of Rape And Honey I would try The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste next, however, even though they are a bit different I would think it may not appeal either. It might be best to go for either the more commercial industrial rock of Psalm 69, or backtrack to the more synth-pop style of Twelve Inch Singles (featuring the club hit "Everyday Is Halloween").

Filth Pig is a terminally under-rated album. The sick guitar town, the heavy-as-lead bass... I could have done without the Bob Dylan cover, but the whole album is solid.

The song "Brick Windows" is pretty damn good, and overall the album is definitely better than the following Dark Side of the Spoon (the only Ministry album I've ever sold), but it's still not all that great. However, after years of not having listened to it, maybe things have changed, I could have a new found appreciation for it, never know.

I've never found any post-Psalm 69 material really worth paying attention to. Sure they still have a good crunchy venomous sound on most of their later discs, and they can be enjoyable in smaller doses, but the creativity on them just seems to pale in comparison to the Twitch-Psalm era, and that's a lot of the band's appeal for me.

At their best, though, they were definitely one of the most brilliant bands in either industrial or metal. Sick, sick shit.

I just found this unreleased song/video from 1982 called 'Same Old Madness'. I think it's pretty awesome.

That is pretty good.

Al's microphone/sex toy is pretty hilarious though.

I hadn't noticed, haha. I only watched a bit of the video, had it playing in the background while doing other stuff. I actually quite like the vocal effects on this, making his voice sound pretty harsh at times compared to the released Ministry stuff of the era. I like the overall sound more than what's on With Sympathy, kind of odd that even though this was recorded before that album, the song has a darker, heavier sound that they later went back to (and obviously went heavier as time went on). I need to find a download of this song.

Yeah, I agree. This was almost closer to Twitch than to With Sympathy. I almost wish they had done more stuff like this. Good find.