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crash_override 08-11-2009 09:29 AM

Them Crooked Vultures
 
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Them Crooked Vultures is the new 'supergroup' featuring a collaboration between Josh Homme, Dave Grohl, John Paul Jones, and Alain Johannes. It has been rumored the group had been recording secretly throughout the summer, and played their fist live show at The Metro in Chicago, IL on Sunday August 9, 2009. Reviews have said that the group played around 75 minutes of all original material and the the band looked and sounded top-notch. An unofficial setlist from the show included the following original songs:

Elephants
New Fang
Scumbag Blues
Dead End Friends
Bandoliers
Mind Eraser
Gunman
Daffodils
Interlude w/ Ludes
Caligulove
Warsaw
Nobodys Loves Me

This lengthy setlist along with rumors that the group has been recording most of the summer lead me to believe an album will follow shortly. We can only hope.

Photos credited to: Pitchfork.com

anticipation 08-11-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 718147)
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Them Crooked Vultures is the new 'supergroup' featuring a collaboration between Josh Homme, Dave Grohl, and John Paul Jones. It has been rumored the group had been recording secretly throughout the summer, and played their fist live show at The Metro in Chicago, IL on Sunday August 9, 2009. Reviews have said that the group played around 75 minutes of all original material and the the band looked and sounded top-notch. An unofficial setlist from the show included the following original songs:

Elephants
New Fang
Scumbag Blues
Dead End Friends
Bandoliers
Mind Eraser
Gunman
Daffodils
Interlude w/ Ludes
Caligulove
Warsaw
Nobodys Loves Me

This lengthy setlist along with rumors that the group has been recording most of the summer lead me to believe an album will follow shortly. We can only hope.

Photos credited to: Pitchfork.com

i got invited to this, free backstage shit and everything.

i said no.

mr dave 08-11-2009 04:15 PM

they also perform with Alain Johannes.

quite frankly it bugs the fuck out of me that he's overlooked at almost every turn in regards to this band. yeah his name doesn't have as much clout as the other 3 but he's hardly a slouch or a no name (eleven / chris cornell / QOTSA / desert sessions and i'm sure there's a bunch more as either songwriter, performer, or producer)

all the hype is making this supergroup look like a return to old school power trio rock and it's inaccurate, quite frankly the more i read about it the more meh i get about it.

crash_override 08-11-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 718391)
they also perform with Alain Johannes.

quite frankly it bugs the fuck out of me that he's overlooked at almost every turn in regards to this band. yeah his name doesn't have as much clout as the other 3 but he's hardly a slouch or a no name (eleven / chris cornell / QOTSA / desert sessions and i'm sure there's a bunch more as either songwriter, performer, or producer)

all the hype is making this supergroup look like a return to old school power trio rock and it's inaccurate, quite frankly the more i read about it the more meh i get about it.

Fixed. With the lack of detailed information about the group, I had to do some other forum digging to prove you correct. Alain Johannes is indeed part of the project and has been added to the OP.

mr dave 08-11-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 718400)
Fixed. With the lack of detailed information about the group, I had to do some other forum digging to prove you correct. Alain Johannes is indeed part of the project and has been added to the OP.

it's all good and my comment wasn't a slag against you in anyway shape or form. no one had heard about Johannes' involvement until the first reviews of that show hit the net 2 days ago.

i'd like to think there's a good reason why he was never mentioned before now but who knows, i certainly haven't read one.

undertow 08-11-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 718391)

all the hype is making this supergroup look like a return to old school power trio rock and it's inaccurate, quite frankly the more i read about it the more meh i get about it.

i wouldnt get to meh about it. looks to be a very promising group. just have to ignore the dj's that are more interested in creating hype for a new tune then informin the listener about music.

DanContogiannis 08-12-2009 12:51 PM

I couldn't be further from "meh". The little I've heard sounds great and all the reviews have been extremely positive.

Teaser:



Clip from the show 1:



Clp from the show 2:


mr dave 08-12-2009 03:59 PM

dunno. the reviews for audioslave were pretty positive too and when i listened to it i felt like someone pooped in my ear (and i actually liked cornell's first solo disc).

quite frankly this sounds like more of the same from those involved. that first clip sounds like a revamped black dog. the 2nd one reminds me of some old phil collin's tune (and is now removed from youtube before i finish typing this post). and the last one sounds like kyuss doing a blues tune.

it's not a bad thing but it's not a new thing. in my eyes it's not the kind of departure that needs a new band name. had they called this the new QOTSA disc and line up i'd be ecstatic. i feared some more jack white-itis with another 'new' band that sounded like all their previous ones, and it's exactly what i'm hearing so far.

The Unfan 08-12-2009 04:05 PM

Turns out this is actually just QOTSA with JPJ, and sounds pretty much exactly like you'd expect. If you like QOTSA this is for you. JPJ doesn't really add or take away much.

DanContogiannis 08-13-2009 01:40 PM

I'm guessing this is not the time to admit I actually liked the first Audioslave record...

Anyway, meh, everything you've said is fair. I'm still very excited about the band, though. These small clips sound good to me, but I'll reserve judgment until we can hear some full songs.

mr dave 08-13-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DanContogiannis (Post 719253)
I'm guessing this is not the time to admit I actually liked the first Audioslave record...

Anyway, meh, everything you've said is fair. I'm still very excited about the band, though. These small clips sound good to me, but I'll reserve judgment until we can hear some full songs.

no worries, if you dig it you dig it, by all means do it up :thumb:

that riff in the first clip IS super badass. but what really annoys me is that this is presented like a new band but just sounds like more of the same.

consider the way mike patton starts new bands, does fantomas sound like mr. bungle? while tomahawk and FNM have similarities they have just as many glaring differences and it's not like both groups were active at the same time.

nothing in any of those clips sounded so far removed as to make me think i was hearing anything besides new QOTSA material. that's what really bugs me about this whole endeavor. but that's just me, i'll freely admit to being hard headed hahaha

RonaldSays 08-26-2009 03:47 AM

I saw them twice now and it really blew my mind. Yes it sounds a lot like Queens of the Stone Age but with more swing. Maybe it's nothing really new. But boy it is a great band and Grohl is just an amazing drummer. I'm really excited about them. Really looking forward to the album. Look for a song called "Gunman" on YouTube. Love that song to bits.

crash_override 08-26-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RonaldSays (Post 725256)
I saw them twice now and it really blew my mind. Yes it sounds a lot like Queens of the Stone Age but with more swing. Maybe it's nothing really new. But boy it is a great band and Grohl is just an amazing drummer. I'm really excited about them. Really looking forward to the album. Look for a song called "Gunman" on YouTube. Love that song to bits.


You're one lucky mofo, I want to see them so bad. They seem to have forgotten about California on their little tour. But I'm sure our time will come. Have you heard anything about a possible release date for an album?

Mojo 08-26-2009 12:38 PM

Man, I am looking forward to this. I haven't decided if I want to watch any Youtube videos yet or just wait for the record.

RonaldSays 08-27-2009 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 725291)
You're one lucky mofo, I want to see them so bad. They seem to have forgotten about California on their little tour. But I'm sure our time will come. Have you heard anything about a possible release date for an album?

Yeah, sure am lucky. Don't know why they have been giving us Dutchies this special treat. Must've done something good.
I heard about an album release date of October 23rd. Album title is supposed to be "Never Deserved The Future". All still rumours of course. It's definitely gonna be good that's for sure.

crash_override 08-27-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RonaldSays (Post 725842)
Yeah, sure am lucky. Don't know why they have been giving us Dutchies this special treat. Must've done something good.
I heard about an album release date of October 23rd. Album title is supposed to be "Never Deserved The Future". All still rumours of course. It's definitely gonna be good that's for sure.

I can only hope that release date is somewhat accurate. Crossing my fingers.

Unrelenting 08-27-2009 12:53 PM

I'm gunna not listen to any of it and wait for the record

DanContogiannis 09-04-2009 09:32 AM

I screwed up and didn't order my tickets yesterday morning. I thought the presale was today! Better be able to get 'em tomorrow...

Mojo 09-06-2009 11:02 AM

Uk Dates announced now also. None up my way unfortunately.

UK Winter 2009

Public on sale starts Friday, Sept 4th at 10 am
Buy online at gigsandtours.com or by phone 0871 2200 260

12-10 Plymouth, England - Pavilions
12-11 Portsmouth, England - Guildhall
12-13 Blackpool, England - Empress Ballroom
12-14 Birmingham, England - O2 Academy
12-15 Edinburgh, Scotland - O2 Academy
12-17 London, England - HMV Hammersmith Apollo

Them Crooked Vultures / Tour

khfreek 09-06-2009 11:08 AM

I'm going to see them in October :)

Seragon Ripper 09-07-2009 07:42 PM

This band is honestly just a bunch of already extremely big rich guys getting together into a band to make alot more money. Their not making a new sound or anything. But it does sound like a good band...I'll give them that

DanContogiannis 09-10-2009 02:51 PM

So you say they're a good band. What's the problem then? You don't like that they're rich? Heh.

I'm goin' to the Toronto show, managed to get tickets in the end =)

scottsy 09-12-2009 08:16 PM

Hey how did those rich guys get rich Seragonripper... by, uh, making music... come on, it's their livelihood, don't knock 'em for getting together and doing what they do best and write and play music... thats kinda like saying, well, I've already been a teacher before so I don't need to go into a classroom before...

And screw it.... if the music['s good... I'm in. Rich artists or not.

khfreek 09-12-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Seragon Ripper (Post 731671)
This band is honestly just a bunch of already extremely big rich guys getting together into a band to make alot more money. Their not making a new sound or anything. But it does sound like a good band...I'll give them that

They all joined together to make more money, when the only one that stands to make more money in this project than their others is John Paul Jones? Whose Led Zep royalties dwarf anything he could make now anyway?

I don't know what you have against the idea of a supergroup, but get over it so you don't make anymore logically fallacious arguments.

Phillyboy 09-14-2009 12:09 AM

I love this idea, it brings attention to rock music period! I have never liked ANYTHING Homme affiliated, try as i must, but I'm pretty certain this will be an amazing record regardless. I loved the Dead Weather album and I think there should be more of these types of virtuoso collabo groups. The rock represeantation at the VMA"S was pathetic this year, even the nominees. And I might cancel my subscription to rolling stone if CV doesn't make the cover.

RonaldSays 09-14-2009 06:53 AM

I don't get it why people always start disliking musicians once they start making good money out of it. So it's better if they live in a cardboard box and eat dog food instead? Never understood the "this music is too commercial" argument anyway. Either you like it or not but don't dislike something because it's making money. That doesn't make sense.

So why is it so bad these guys got together simply because they wanted to make music together and make money while doing that? I think they're doing a very good job on it and can't wait to hear their album. I will buy it the minute it comes out. And the 40 euros I paid for their gig in Amsterdam were 40 euros very well spent!

Mojo 09-18-2009 08:50 AM

I agree with you for the most part but the music HAS to come first and if the band happens to make a load of money then so be it. I generally hate the term "sell out" and especially as people often throw it around when talking about bands who have naturally and organically gained popularity when really this is completely out of their hands and all down to their market.

If the music would be the same whether theres 20 people or 20 million people buying it then i think its hard to justify this term, but if the bands output is specifically mouled in such a way for the sole purpose of making lots of money then i think its very much justified.

Seragon Ripper 09-19-2009 06:29 PM

I don't like the idea that they are making a super group. That's what it is. Super group's never last. The only one I've ever seen last was The Yardbirds and they had actual legends in them

khfreek 09-19-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Seragon Ripper (Post 739268)
I don't like the idea that they are making a super group. That's what it is. Super group's never last. The only one I've ever seen last was The Yardbirds and they had actual legends in them

Them Crooked Vultures has actual legends... The Yardbirds did not. How "legendary" were the bands that The Yardbirds formed from? Not very. The members only became legends after The Yardbirds.

scottsy 09-19-2009 08:48 PM

Hey at least both the Yardbirds and this one reference birds in their name... coincidence.... I think not! hehehe

RonaldSays 09-21-2009 10:11 AM

They don't have to last. I don't see anything wrong with making a great album, do a little tour just for the fun of it and leave it to that.

scottsy 09-21-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RonaldSays (Post 740057)
They don't have to last. I don't see anything wrong with making a great album, do a little tour just for the fun of it and leave it to that.

I'd love to be one of those who's getting to see them.... now that would be wonderful!

sidewinder 09-22-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonaldSays (Post 740057)
They don't have to last. I don't see anything wrong with making a great album, do a little tour just for the fun of it and leave it to that.

Exactly. Who cares? If the music's good we'll enjoy it while it lasts.

mr dave 09-22-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonaldSays (Post 740057)
They don't have to last. I don't see anything wrong with making a great album, do a little tour just for the fun of it and leave it to that.

so why not make this the desert sessions volume 11&12? :p:

Seragon Ripper 09-22-2009 05:17 PM

What are you talking about..........The band members of the Yardbirds come from three legendary bands.... Led Zeppelin at the top, The Jeff Beck group, and of course Cream

Mojo 09-22-2009 05:43 PM

You mustn't have read the post properly. You called TCV a supergroup because they are a band born from already successful groups. The Yardbirds were not really a supergroup because Eric Clapton left The Yardbirds to form Cream and Jimmy Page left The Yardbirds to form Led Zeppelin, not the other way around.

khfreek 09-25-2009 07:18 PM

Would you guys recommend listening to their studio work and live videos before seeing them live or should I just go?

Sodacake 09-27-2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Seragon Ripper (Post 740824)
What are you talking about..........The band members of the Yardbirds come from three legendary bands.... Led Zeppelin at the top, The Jeff Beck group, and of course Cream

You have it completely backwards.

RonaldSays 09-28-2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 742450)
Would you guys recommend listening to their studio work and live videos before seeing them live or should I just go?

If you get the chance go see them. Although I'm really looking forward to the album and promises to be an instant classic nothing can beat seeing these guys live.

khfreek 09-28-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RonaldSays (Post 743588)
If you get the chance go see them. Although I'm really looking forward to the album and promises to be an instant classic nothing can beat seeing these guys live.

I already got tickets, now answer my question!


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