100 Greatest Bass Players in Rock/Pop

SATCHMO · 07-11-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

42

[thinks] 'hhmmm...whats the meaning of 42?'
[says aloud] oh craps, don't know, ok... let me check my Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, hhmmm

Mark King???

http://http://www.musicbanter.com/general-music/39385-satchmos-jive-essence-42-a-11.html

SATCHMO · 07-11-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Who's the one guy you never see in a top bass players list, yet he's insanely awesome?

Hint: He's famous for playing with the one drummer you never see in a top drummer list, yet He's insanely good too.

Meh, I stand corrected. I id a search and found there names all over MB. There goes that premise.

jackhammer · 07-11-2009, 06:31 PM

Still no Jean Jacques Burnel? What a bass player and great sound too:

Neapolitan · 07-11-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

http://http://www.musicbanter.com/general-music/39385-satchmos-jive-essence-42-a-11.html

I thought you were into Level 42 for some odd reason.

How 'bout Ron Carter??

Ernir · 07-11-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

He's #58.

**** I guess I overlooked him.

My bad.

boo boo · 07-12-2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Do you really want a list from me?

The hot shots are the only interesting jazz bass player (yeah, I said it). Why should I make a list of every Jaco/Stanley Clarke wannabe that ever put out an album.

Well I'm not just talking about fusion players and I'm pretty sure you're underestimating the originality of some great jazz bassists.

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Originally Posted by thelonelystoner

Simon Gallup is ridiculously low

He was a bit lower. I guess I could move him a little higher.

SATCHMO · 07-12-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Well I'm not just talking about fusion players and I'm pretty sure you're underestimating the originality of some great jazz bassists.

"Originality" and "bassist" weren't words that were really used in the same sentence before Jaco and Stanley came around. Even Mingus built his reputation more on being a composer/arranger than on being an upright bass player. Sure there were the greats: Ron Carter, Scott Lafaro, Charlie Hayden, Dave Holland, Paul Chambers, and even Mingus, but there reputations were built on being able to keep up with the fast pasted chord progressions of the bebop and post-bop era, and not really there creative output.

boo boo · 07-12-2009, 01:38 AM

Even Mingus?

I think you're underestimating somebody alright.

And what you're describing, that's what a bassist is supposed to do, and being a good bebop bassist isn't exactly something just any average musician can do.

But creative input is also important, people knock Roger Waters because he didn't play the more technical bass parts in Floyd's later recordings, Gilmour did, but considering the iron fist Waters ruled with at that point, he most likely wrote those bass parts anyway, it's not like he couldn't play them live either.

SATCHMO · 07-12-2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Even Mingus?

I think you're underestimating somebody alright.

And what you're describing, that's what a bassist is supposed to do, and being a good bebop bassist isn't exactly something just any average musician can do.

But creative input is also important, people knock Roger Waters because he didn't play the more technical bass parts in Floyd's later recordings, Gilmour did, but considering the iron fist Waters ruled with at that point, he most likely wrote those bass parts anyway, it's not like he couldn't play them live either.

I'm not trying to underestimate the the role of the pre-fusion jazz bassist in any way. As a matter of fact you're right; being able to intuitively keep up with a be-pop progression in a live improvisational setting is a challenge beyond nearly anything that I can imagine trying to do musically. I'm just saying that despite their talent, there wasn't too much distinctive about pre-electric jazz bass players. Jaco really paved the way for the bass to be a melodic instrument in its own right, and although he was never quite as melodic as Jaco, Stanley Clarke's personality shone brightly through everything he played. It was really amplification that made the difference. More than anything, it allowed the bass to cut through the mix and take a more prominent leadership role, something that was difficult to do before, with the exception of the occasional allotted bass solo. Still today there are a lot of very skilled acoustic upright bass players, but not too many who have been able to carve out their own distinctive niche with their style.

boo boo · 07-12-2009, 02:38 AM

I guess you make a good point.

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