Christian Hardcore/Metalcore

xTevinx · 06-09-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I find people who listen to hardcore stuff exclusively (like my old college roommate) kinda annoying to be honest. "Omg this breakdown is so awesome!11", "Omg this is soooo heavy!!" and so on and so forth gets pretty old to hear verrrry quickly, especially since I could show them bands all the way back from 1971 who make their favorite bands look about as brutal as The Carpenters.

I'm guilty of that.

Unrelenting · 06-10-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

Yeah, I've always found it gets old pretty fast. I've always been into all types of music new and old. I did listen to alot of post-hardcore and metalcore in my day, but never limited myself to just that. I guess I've grown out of that but still have a soft spot for the stuff I used to listen to.

Yeah, they can make nasty work for them. Normally I'm not a fan of noise oriented music but NJ does it very tastefully.

The riff in Murderotica is so vile

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe · 06-10-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unrelenting

I thought that was an awful record. Everything that Norma Jean was musically and vocally was watered down heavily.

Have you heard their newest stuff? Talk about watered down.

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Originally Posted by Kamikazi Kat

The problem I have with "christcore" is the name itself. I don't see how the band members just happening to be christians deserves an entirely new genre. I mean, whats next? Jewcore? Agnosticore? Nihilicore? Why should a band's belief system give them an entirely new genre?

I agree with mr. dave in that a bands religion or belief system shouldn't matter at all. Keeping on the topic of hardcore bands that just happen to be christian, I used to listen to Showbread. They were a kind of sludgy, hardcore punk band with synthesizers that I liked. They really didn't make a big deal about their faith, the only noticable thing being that they performed at a few churches (which confuses me, I can't picture a church letting them play).

I've had annoying experiences with "christcore" (I do admit that saying christcore or christian hardcore is easier then saying hardcore band that happens to be christian). I've met quite a few people who are really into hardcore, but are only allowed by their parents to listen to christian hardcore bands, or even worse, only christian bands in general.

I think the reason a lot of people put it in a separate genre is because bands that advertise their faith as being a large influence in their music often reflect that in their lyrics. For example, bands like My Children My Bride, The Devil Wears Prada, and Gwen Stacy have definite religious connotations. I agree though, that putting them in a genre all their own is pointless. The fact that I am against religion may play in that....but it does not change the fact that I still listen to bands that identify as "Christian" bands.

oh....and anyone old enough to be into hardcore or metal whose parents decide what music they can and can't listen to needs to grow a spine. (this is not to say that there is a certain age that someone has to be to listen to hardcore/metal, but I don't think I'm too far off in saying that most kids don't get into heavier music until they hit their early teens)

PinkCigarette · 06-10-2009, 11:34 PM

I don't mind "Christcore", or any music in general that has Christian related lyrics, I just don't like the preaching kind. I am athiest but I wont dismiss music that has religious lyrics at all. As long as it sounds good and doesn't preach to me, I'm happy.

xTevinx · 06-11-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Patton

I don't mind "Christcore", or any music in general that has Christian related lyrics, I just don't like the preaching kind. I am athiest but I wont dismiss music that has religious lyrics at all. As long as it sounds good and doesn't preach to me, I'm happy.

I am the same way.

Unrelenting · 06-11-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe

Have you heard their newest stuff? Talk about watered down.

I haven't bothered to be honest.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe · 06-11-2009, 04:12 PM

^Good. Don't....You'll thank me.

xTevinx · 06-11-2009, 08:18 PM

I didn't know people hated Norma Jean so much, well, atleast the new stuff. Anyone ever listen to We Came As Romans? They are hella awesome.

crash_override · 06-11-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xTevinx

I didn't know people hated Norma Jean so much, well, atleast the new stuff. Anyone ever listen to We Came As Romans? They are hella awesome.

Eh, I was never a huge fan of Norma Jean but I did jam out Bless The Child for a long time. We Came as Romans is ok. They try to do the scream/sing really high, scream/ sing really high/ growl. thing too much. They need to find the nitch and stray away from the basic metalcore. The classical keys are a nice touch. I feel like they can progess into something good if they apply themselves and get with the right people professionally.

Hesher · 06-12-2009, 02:11 AM

I have to agree that I think metalcore as a genre has become ultimately repetitive and thus very bland... But I also have to agree that Memphis Will Be Laid To Waste is a sick song and covering it with my old band of pseudo-core dudes was the most fun I had in that band. I think Underoath's Act of Depression album is the only good one... For some reason almost every Underoath fan I've met hates it. I saw them once live and thought they sucked, but then, they never play AoD songs anymore obviously. The Christianity aspect is really a non-issue with me... I rarely pay attention to the lyrics in these bands in any case, usually because you can't understand them and they rarely have any creative value IMO. That said, Destroy The Runner is pretty excellent with their clean lyrics and melodic lines. They are somewhat of a guilty pleasure with me. No real breakdowns in their music either.

Kind of a pointless post but whatever.

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PinkCigarette Chase for 28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 349	I don't mind "Christcore", or any music in general that has Christian related lyrics, I just don't like the preaching kind. I am athiest but I wont dismiss music that has religious lyrics at all. As long as it sounds good and doesn't preach to me, I'm happy. __________________

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xTevinx Music Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: PA Posts: 83	I didn't know people hated Norma Jean so much, well, atleast the new stuff. Anyone ever listen to We Came As Romans? They are hella awesome. __________________ Favorite bands: The Devil Wears Prada Suicide Silence WhiteChapel Oceana

06-12-2009, 02:11 AM	#50 (permalink)
Hesher Palm Muted Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 168	I have to agree that I think metalcore as a genre has become ultimately repetitive and thus very bland... But I also have to agree that Memphis Will Be Laid To Waste is a sick song and covering it with my old band of pseudo-core dudes was the most fun I had in that band. I think Underoath's Act of Depression album is the only good one... For some reason almost every Underoath fan I've met hates it. I saw them once live and thought they sucked, but then, they never play AoD songs anymore obviously. The Christianity aspect is really a non-issue with me... I rarely pay attention to the lyrics in these bands in any case, usually because you can't understand them and they rarely have any creative value IMO. That said, Destroy The Runner is pretty excellent with their clean lyrics and melodic lines. They are somewhat of a guilty pleasure with me. No real breakdowns in their music either. Kind of a pointless post but whatever.