Creed

adidasss · 08-29-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek

Not everyone can do it, but most can (or rather, the people the bands work with can do it). Whether any lame rapper or pop artist makes it these days is based purely on what record label they're represented by. You don't see the Rihanna's and Katy Perry's of the world slowing gaining appeal by word of mouth; their record company promotes them enough by getting their music videos on TV and their songs on the radio, and the mindless masses take it from there.

Really? So they're all just talentless people who write garbage and the only reason people buy it is because it's on TV? C'mon man...And Good girl gone bad is one of the best pop albums of the decade. :\

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For example, Creed released their first album on an independent label to little response. They sign to Wind-up Records, a subsidiary of Sony BMG, and the re-released album goes into the Top 40. Definitely not a coincedence. So from those points we can conclude that the quality, remaining the same between the two releases of the album, did not have an effect on their major success; it was the label.

Ok, yes, I'm not disputing that, but this is 1997 we're talking about. Sure, it's much more likely that a band will gain success if they're promoted by a major label, but I haven't noticed The Mars Volta pushing as many units as Creed or Rihanna, even though they're all on major labels (right?). For every Creed, there are dozens of bands on major labels that never came close to that level of success.

So, yeah, I'd say the music plays a great part in a band's success.

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Yep, and the only people who end up getting on major labels these days have to meet whatever critera the label wants in the music they promote.

I'm pretty sure every label has some criteria of the music they want to promote....:\

Anteater · 08-29-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I'm pretty sure every label has some criteria of the music they want to promote....:\

Not always. Some labels out there have a variety of different kinds of bands signed on, so its harder to pin down the criteria they have. And Warner Bros. is just plain weird. = /

Investigating such would make for an interesting paper in any case.

mr dave · 08-29-2009, 07:01 PM

the criteria for every single label out there is to make a profit. some want to make a larger profit than others but it's still all about paying the bills. you can put up all the altruistic fronts you want and scream about artistry until you're blue in the face but if you can't pay your power bill you can't hit the record button in the studio.

labels with a vast variety of bands signed to their roster don't have different criteria either, they're just hoping one of the random bands they've got signed happens to be playing next week's hit flavour.

Sodacake · 08-29-2009, 07:01 PM

Wow, Mars Volta, Rihanna and Creed in the same sentence. That conjures up so many images of awful music by brain is almost fried.

adidasss · 08-29-2009, 07:02 PM

@mr. dave: Well put, sir...

Dr_Rez · 08-29-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

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Well put yourself Mr. Adidasss.

scottsy · 08-29-2009, 08:44 PM

This would indeed make a great thesis for a paper... I think most labels probably have a strategic plan, ya know, certain no. of artists that appeal to certain audiences, etc... so they are hitting their targets correctly... kinda like GM and Ford might only market certain cars so as to not overflood thue maarketplace with the same product and not sell many of any, losing money on production, promotion, etc...

As much as we don't like to ponder it, I guess its still a business working under modern business priciples...

Terrible Lizard · 08-30-2009, 12:49 AM

Congrats to Scott Stapp, the only person who Kid Rock can call an idiot, thus setting a new standard for dumb****ery.
I listened to Creed for about year, when I was 8 going on 9. So I guess I had a viable excuse. But in high school? Hard to believe, Creed fans to me just exist so Pearl Jam fantards have something to make fun of.

But I still find Stapp's use of pronunciation to be ****ing hilarious, a mahn among mahns in that regard.

Darkest Hour · 08-30-2009, 01:24 AM

can someone post a link of him rapping?

djchameleon · 08-30-2009, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard

Congrats to Scott Stapp, the only person who Kid Rock can call an idiot, thus setting a new standard for dumb****ery.
I listened to Creed for about year, when I was 8 going on 9. So I guess I had a viable excuse. But in high school? Hard to believe, Creed fans to me just exist so Pearl Jam fantards have something to make fun of.

But I still find Stapp's use of pronunciation to be ****ing hilarious, a mahn among mahns in that regard.

isn't he deaf in one ear? I think I heard that. That's the man reason he pronounces things the way he does. To me it always sounded like he had marbles in his mouth and was trying to sing but when I found out the deaf thing I stopped making fun of him for it.

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scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	This would indeed make a great thesis for a paper... I think most labels probably have a strategic plan, ya know, certain no. of artists that appeal to certain audiences, etc... so they are hitting their targets correctly... kinda like GM and Ford might only market certain cars so as to not overflood thue maarketplace with the same product and not sell many of any, losing money on production, promotion, etc... As much as we don't like to ponder it, I guess its still a business working under modern business priciples... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

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Sodacake Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 344	Wow, Mars Volta, Rihanna and Creed in the same sentence. That conjures up so many images of awful music by brain is almost fried.